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Ami fanged four

Look What I Got!

Hi folks, been a bit busy the past couple of days, but had to let everyone see the pretty I got made for me. I challenged one of the mods at nekid_spike to make a modern fanged four manip for me. The mod I challenged was my dear friend zoesmith, and I got a wonderful manip in response. I'm sure you would love to see it, so posting it at my journal. Here are Spike, Angelus, Darla and Dursilla.

The Challenge was

I would like Fanged Four, in all their evil glory (or gory), maybe a modern interpratation of them, with no souls to worry about....could even inspire a little modern au fic, so an (as yet) unwritten story banner.

Maybe something like "There were so many places in the world right now that calls to a vampire, Darla had decided that Afganistan was not to her tasted, but Iraq had potential. The Mayhem and unrest called to Drusilla so Iraq it was. After all Angelus and Spike could never resist the desires of the girls."


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comic after the fall

Spike's Character in the Comics

A discussion and poll at shapinglight's journal I have been popping onto on and off today left me thinking about how well IDW have protrayed Spike in the continuation of the comic. So I posted my own poll, I hope my flist have fun with it.

Poll #1542099 Do IDW Have Spike 'In Character'? (can click more than one)

In these Titles he is in character

Asylum
5(12.5%)
Shadow Puppets
1(2.5%)
Angel: After the Fall
2(5.0%)
Anything since Angel: After the Fall
0(0.0%)
He is not in character in any of them
4(10.0%)
I have never read any of the comics
8(20.0%)

Is Spike Out of Character in

Asylum
0(0.0%)
Shadow Puppets
0(0.0%)
Angel: After the Fall
2(5.6%)
Everything since Angel: After the Fall
18(50.0%)
He is always in character
0(0.0%)
I've never read any of the comics, I told you
7(19.4%)

How do you think Spike Treats Women

He Will remain faithful to the woman in his life
3(7.7%)
He will use his sexual allure to his own gain, but will remain faithful
6(15.4%)
He will have daliances with other women for his own gain
0(0.0%)
If he is unattached he will be more than willing to sleep with other women
2(5.1%)
He will sleep with other women, but will have his heart set on 'True Love'
4(10.3%)
He is an out and out womanizer looking for the next conquest
0(0.0%)
Lets Fight That Evil

Character Development and Actor Love.

I find that the tendancy to put a character on a pedestal so that they can do no wrong, or, on the other hand, degrade a character so that they can do no right is boring.

As you all know, in the Buffy!Verse my favourite character is Spike. At this point I will say 'I' but I know many others who love Spike, but are fully aware of his faults. Spike is interesting bacause of the character development given from him, from where he started off in Season Two, to where he finished off in Season Seven.

Spike had one of the most challenging and complex story arcs that led to his development in the series. I find people who do not acknowledge it are showing some lack of depth of understanding the shades of grey, and work Joss and the other members of the creative crew gave to the character. While, on the other hand, vocally proclaiming that Angel never did any wrong takes away from his character as well. He would've been very boring if that was the case. The same can be said for many of the other characters. Part of what makes Joss' work interesting is his character developments, and motivations. I feel those who do not see it have missed out on a lot of his work.

While Eric is not quite the master Joss is, I do find Sam's character development over the seasons very interesting as well. Rewatching where he started out in Season One, to where he is now is one of the things I enjoy the most about the show, and gives me lots of food for thought.

It is the very nature of having a favourite actor that leads to them being put on a pedestal. He/She becomes an ideal. What should be remembered though is that they are not the real person, who is getting on with their live's, and has a life to live. If you write/read RPF or RPS then the character in your fic is as fictional as any other character in a work of fiction. Making your idealised version the 'hero' just leads to boring fic.
Lets Fight That Evil

A Little Ficlet!

I got hit with a plot bunny just for blondebitz's birthday. I'm sure you will guess the pairing, it is two of her bestest boys. So keeping one a secret wasn't going to work, but I tried!

Title Fuck You
Author woman_of_
Rating NC 17
Pairing Oh go on guess.

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Please tell me what you thought of the voices, I have problems with one of them, and wonder it it works.
Spike and Sam

Blinkered!

I noticed it in the Buffyfandom the tendancy to have Angel do no wrong, while Spike could do no right. The total hero worshipping of one character, while constantly pointing out the flaws in the other. The whole point of character development in programmes is that they do develop. Spike fans can see his flaws, and also acknowledge them. We know where he started off, and what he became. It was what made him one of the most interesting characters in the show, and was what made Joss such a great storyteller.

Now in SPN we have the same thing with Dean can to no wrong, Sam can do no right. While the character development of both Sam and Dean is not as well written as it was for Angel and Spike, especially Spike (Angel could be very boring at times, he was quite static), the fans reaction is the same.

One character who is constantally good is not good storytelling. While Joss is better than Eric in that field, there has to be some movement in character. Yes EK may concentrate on Dean more, and show us his developements in more detail (another example of bad storytelling, after all he only had two main characters, so could've spent more time showing Sam's motivations last season, a major flaw of the season in my book).

If one character can do no wrong then they are boring, which I don't think either Angel or Dean are, it is just the depth of the character is being ignored. Spike, for example, moved from being almost a pantomime villian in Season Two, to a fully developed souled vampire in Season Seven. One we understood. While Angel was always far more interesting when we got glimpses of Angelus. To see where he started in his full evil character, to his search for redemption with his soul is what makes him interesting.

In dismissing the character to this one dimensional always right, always wrong way takes away any depth, or humanity (yes I know two of them are vampires, but they have souls). Humans are flawed, and so should good fictional characters be as well.

The depth of character development shown in BtVS and AtS, of each and every character in the show, is what makes Joss such a great storyteller, and his keeps his fandom alive. We just know we can put these character in situations and explore how they would react. I'm not sure that EK has given us enough information on either Dean or Sam to be fully inside their heads they way we can with Buffy!Verse characters.
Kiss Already

Shanshu Prophecy

If you have read it, just forget Angel: After the Fall, who, if either, should get the Shanshu Prophecy.

Poll #1407880 The Shanshu Prophecy

Who Should Get The Shanshu Prophecy

Angel
6(33.3%)
Spike
1(5.6%)
I want both of them, or either of them to get it
11(61.1%)

Who Would Make the Best Human

Spike
8(44.4%)
Angel
2(11.1%)
They would be equally as good
8(44.4%)

Would either of them revert to their human selves when they were alive

Angel would revert to Liam
1(5.6%)
Spike would revert to William
0(0.0%)
They have both changed since then
17(94.4%)
They would both revert to their human selves
0(0.0%)

Reason #1 for your choice

Reason #2 for your choice

Reason #3 for your choice

Reason #4 for your choice

Reason #5 for your choice

passenger Sam

Spring has Sprung.

Lovely day today. Sunny, warm sight breeze, people out doing the gardening. It might even feel like a summer day, were it not for the lovely Spring flowers in bloom. A day that puts a smile on your face.

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Well Alpha Male Madness are down to the final two, Sam and Dean Wincester. Dean is of course winning but I kind of liked this comment

"I really like both these guys but Sam gets my vote. Dean ended up torturing people and enjoying it and crumbling under the torture, so he loses some alpha male points. Sorry Dean i'm voting for Sammy. He's been using his abilities he hates for the greater good and that's sacrifice. I have no doubt lots of fans will vote on who they 'fancy' I am voting on strength this season as a male fan"

See there are male fans of the show, it is not all females. The show does have more than pretty boys, even if that helps a lot.

If you do want to vote, go here

Dean is winning at present, but then Dean seems to win at all these type of things!

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On the subject of voting, March Madness at Buffyfest is also down to the final two. It is between Spike and Buffy, so if you want to vote there go here you do not need to register to vote they take anon votes a well.

Thanks to sueworld2003 for the heads up.

ETA I have a slight problem with spelling, in that I have a slight word blindness. I cannot differentuate vowels. It just took me ages to find seize in the dictionary.
Goodbye cruel World

The Myth of Spike!

Bare with me here, these thoughts are a bit rambling. I probably will not be able to probably articulate them until (or if), I get some comments from other people to help me put everything together in my head.

I started wondering why Spike was/is used so sparingly in BtVS, AtS and Angel: After the Fall. I know that Spike detractors claim that he was almost taking over the show, but that is just not true.

I don't think it was because of how "well" written Spike was either. Often it seemed they didn't really know what to do with him. He was the disposable villain of Season Two, who became a regular by Season Four. They did, in the end, give him massive character development, but I've suspected that that was because they got round the table to discuss the next episode and it was a case of "and what will we do with Spike this episode". No I think that Spike rose up for one very good reason. James Marsters.

James has an aura, when he walks onto the screen, your eyes turn to him. It is not that he is greedy, in fact I think he shares the screen well with other actors. In fact is generous. He can also lift another actors game when they are playing opposite him. He gives his all in the role, and encourages others to give their all acting alongside him.

He has presence on the stage, from his days in theatre, which translates well onto the screen. You remember his performance. Remember the scenes he was in better than others. Even as sparse as they are, they are the ones etched in your memory, so love him or hate him, you remember Spike's time on the screen.

So how does this translate to the comic, if James isn't there to give Spike the benefit of his skills. He is, the presence that James gave Spike, the aura that surrounds him still makes Spike a larger than life character that you notice, which is why I believe Spike should have his own series. He deserves it. Also James should headline his own series as well. He has more than enough talent!

An unashamed James and Spike lover!

Ok, I will shut up now! Sorry had to get that out!
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Vampire Champions!

A silly little drabble that came to me! Sorry, I promise to stop now!

Sam and Dean knew about things that went bump in the night. The monsters of your worse nightmares. Then one night they heard about a champion vampire, with a soul who also saved people from the monsters. Sam found lots of sites dedicated to the vampire, and was surprised to find out there were two, each of them with many devoted, enamoured female fans.

“Makes sense Sammy, I mean they are champions."

“They are not even trying to keep a low profile. They even seem to have a television show”

“How awesome would a programme be with us in it!”