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Guitar Christian

Musing on Buffy Season Eight. And it is not a poll

I've been musing on this all day, and now that I'm trying to get to sleep it will not let me, so I may as well share so I can get some shut eye.

Ok, up front I'm neither Spuffy or Bangel, and am not invested in either ship. I am Spangel, but that was less the writing in the show and more the chemistry between DB and JM on the screen. I always felt that Angel was a little threatened by Spike (not Angelus, but souled Angel), and that led to a great deal of antagonism between them, so more of the same in the comics I as expecting, and of course we do not have the actors there to give the depth that they did to the relationship.

So having said that up front, so a basic assumption.

1) Joss doesn't really want to ruin his fandom, BtVS is his money cow, and the reason there is so much interest in what he does. He doesn't want to shot it. (I could be wrong, and many times during the course of this arc have thought he did).

Therefore

A) There will be no long term resolution to the star-crossed lovers. The two main characters ending up together is the death keel to any show or fandom.
B) He will use the star-crossed lovers for a big emotional impact, and is therefore manipulating the situation to make the most impact. At least for those that care.
C) Joss and his mouth-piece Scott Allie are manipulating the situation to the highest, including behind the scenes as businessmen to bring AtS back to Dark Horse. I find it very underhand, and full of dirty tricks, but is seems they succeeded, which sucks seeds for me.
D) The ending will be unsatisfactory. This will not be the first time that Joss has had an unsatisfactory ending, personally I was very unhappy with 'Chosen', a few really good scenes, but overall too many plot holes and McGuffeys used, as well as pretty naff foes in the final battle after the build up for them.

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I'm sure I don't need to add that this is just my musing, trying to make sense of what the season is all about. Total speculation on my part.

Now maybe I can get some sleep that I got that out my system.
Lets Fight That Evil

Concerns about the latest relevations of Buffy Season Eight

Following what is happening in the San Degio Comic Con, Joss Whedon now has a co-writer for the final issues of Buffy Season Eight. A nice new shiney has attracted Joss' attention. I know that comics are not the best paying gig in the joint, but from the outset we were told that had nothing to do with Buffy Season Eight. Joss was doing it because he had a story to tell, and was going to tell it in comic book form. It was going to be canon. It was going to continue the BtVS verse.

We as fans eagerly awaited its release, happy that Joss was giving us something to sink our teeth into.

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Oh Joss, why to I feel like you have deserted your loyal Buffy fans, who have been there through thick and thin, and supported you. Not only in the Buffy!Verse but your other projects as well.

EDIT

stormwreath has trascribed the relevant parts of the panel here

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Oh Really

[subjective speculation] Where does Joss Whedons Interest lie now

Just to be subjective for a minute, if asked (and I am), which of Joss Whedon's projects to you think now has most of his interest?

Poll #1540467 Which Project is Joss Whedon Most Interested It?

Which Project Do You Think Joss Whedon Is Most Interested In Continuing

BtVS (Season Eight)
6(18.2%)
AtS in some form
0(0.0%)
Firefly in some form
6(18.2%)
Doctor Horrible (any time any place anywhere)
18(54.5%)
Dollhouse in some form
2(6.1%)
A Buffy Film
0(0.0%)
Something using a Character from either BtVS or AtS
1(3.0%)

Which Project is Joss Whedon Least Interested in

BtVS (Season Eight)
2(6.1%)
AtS in some form
14(42.4%)
Firefly in some form
1(3.0%)
Doctor Horrible
1(3.0%)
Dollhouse in some form
2(6.1%)
A Buffy Film
12(36.4%)
Something using a character from BtVS or AtS
1(3.0%)
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*Shakes Head*

just been reading what is coming in Buffy Season Eight comic. Now, to be honest, I really stopped being invested in it a long time ago, and stopped reading.

I've no doubt (I hope), that Joss Whedon will turn it round. I'm just wondering how many people will stick around to see it. Either that, or he has got fed up with BtVS and AtS and wants to ruin them both. Could be that both Firefly and Dollhouse have his imagination more, but JW, could I just point out that BtVS and AtS are your claim to fame. Firefly bombed after one season, and Dollhouse only lasted two, and, really! Maybe you should stay away from the hopeless ass-lickers at whedonesque, and take a long cool look at what is your track record.
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Ianto Jones

Willow's reaction to Tara's death Vs Jack's raction to Ianto's death

Ok, so RTD keeps saying how much he admires Joss Whedon. Has he learned anything from him at all? Let us look at one scernio "Willow's reaction to Tara's death Vs Jack's reaction to Ianto's death", and I think we will see that RTD is a big FAIL!

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Ok those are my thoughts. What do you think? Agree, disagree, on the fence? Let me know.

I promise this is the last you will hear from me on the subject, I'm in morning for Ianto, and less involved in the Torchwood fandom now because of it. I think the only thing that will bring be back for Season Four is James Marsters coming back.
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Cabin in the Woods

Anyone else interested in Joss Whedon's Cabin in the Woods?

Just been following some information on it. Despite the fact that I hate Slasher Films, I think this one might be funny, as Joss seems to be doing a send up of some of the sterotypes and cliches of these type of movies.

I think, with Joss humour in it, it could be fun!
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*Ponders*

Just thinking about the two Metas I'm going to write. Yes these are the things that keep me awake at night. Well and also that David was so boring while he was visiting I fell asleep for three hours after he left, I mean, he wanted me to decide for him whither he should go to Balloch or Glasgow after he left for a cup of coffee. By that time I couldn't care, as he had talked about it for a solid 10 minutes before that. Couldn't keep my eyes open.

.............
Joss Meta

I see Joss as very much a detached people watcher, who is analysing what is going on around him. An observer, from a very young age, who now uses that information he has built up to use in his character development in his works.

Anyone else agree/disagree or have there own observations about what makes Joss such an expert on Character Development?

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Sam Meta.

From the Pilot when we meet Sam, Sam is mourning. First it is Jess, then John then Dean. His emotions are very much effected by these tragic events, and his motivations and ambitions effected by them

While a character who is in mourning isn't cool, it is intricale to understand what is happening with Sam's mind, and why it was easy for Ruby, and, indeed both Azazeal and Lilth to manipulate him. He was under great stress, with feelings of guilt and loss.

Is this too depressing to write about? Would anyone want to read that?

I really don't think I could do the Meta without using it to explain a lot of what is happening with Sam, and where he is now.
Guitar Christian

Fandom Longativity!

Ok, didn't see David and Ronnie today. Started coughing, sneezing, aches and pains and a headache. I think the headache was due to lack of sleep. So I phoned them and cancelled, took some lemsip, and went back to bed. The headache is gone, but, apart from the sniffling, the ball of my right leg is killing me.

I will not call this a meta, more along the lines of my rambling.

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Lesbian Vampire Killers

Sorry for SPAMMING big style tonight, but I just couldn't resist!

Coming out in the UK on the 20th March Lesbian Vampire Killers!



So how much credit should we give Joss for this one? *eg*
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