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Musing on Buffy Season Eight. And it is not a poll

I've been musing on this all day, and now that I'm trying to get to sleep it will not let me, so I may as well share so I can get some shut eye.

Ok, up front I'm neither Spuffy or Bangel, and am not invested in either ship. I am Spangel, but that was less the writing in the show and more the chemistry between DB and JM on the screen. I always felt that Angel was a little threatened by Spike (not Angelus, but souled Angel), and that led to a great deal of antagonism between them, so more of the same in the comics I as expecting, and of course we do not have the actors there to give the depth that they did to the relationship.

So having said that up front, so a basic assumption.

1) Joss doesn't really want to ruin his fandom, BtVS is his money cow, and the reason there is so much interest in what he does. He doesn't want to shot it. (I could be wrong, and many times during the course of this arc have thought he did).


A) There will be no long term resolution to the star-crossed lovers. The two main characters ending up together is the death keel to any show or fandom.
B) He will use the star-crossed lovers for a big emotional impact, and is therefore manipulating the situation to make the most impact. At least for those that care.
C) Joss and his mouth-piece Scott Allie are manipulating the situation to the highest, including behind the scenes as businessmen to bring AtS back to Dark Horse. I find it very underhand, and full of dirty tricks, but is seems they succeeded, which sucks seeds for me.
D) The ending will be unsatisfactory. This will not be the first time that Joss has had an unsatisfactory ending, personally I was very unhappy with 'Chosen', a few really good scenes, but overall too many plot holes and McGuffeys used, as well as pretty naff foes in the final battle after the build up for them.

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I'm sure I don't need to add that this is just my musing, trying to make sense of what the season is all about. Total speculation on my part.

Now maybe I can get some sleep that I got that out my system.
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As I take a back seat and observe what the comic continuation of two great TV programms (BtVS and AtS), which both broke molds and was innovative, in a comic book, I increasingly dispair. Both these programmes where critical hits, they had depth of character, development and explored real world themes in a supernatural environment. Now I feel that both have been stripped of what made them great to fit into the sterotype of what people involved in comic books think the fangirls and fanboys want, and I increasingly feel insulted.

I had a bit more faith in IDW, but it is gone now. I wanted to support them for all the hard work they put into the AtS title, but they have taken the three dimensional characters and reduced them to one dimensional charactures of their, once great, depth. In doing so, they have polarised them.

With Dark Horse they seemed to go for the fanboys and their preconceived ideas of what they want, while reducing the fangirls to nothing more than hopeless romantics that they could throw the occassional "soulmate" and "True Love" at.

Even in the non-PC 60's I don't remember such insulting sterotypes.
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Spike's Character in the Comics

A discussion and poll at shapinglight's journal I have been popping onto on and off today left me thinking about how well IDW have protrayed Spike in the continuation of the comic. So I posted my own poll, I hope my flist have fun with it.

Poll #1542099 Do IDW Have Spike 'In Character'? (can click more than one)

In these Titles he is in character

Shadow Puppets
Angel: After the Fall
Anything since Angel: After the Fall
He is not in character in any of them
I have never read any of the comics

Is Spike Out of Character in

Shadow Puppets
Angel: After the Fall
Everything since Angel: After the Fall
He is always in character
I've never read any of the comics, I told you

How do you think Spike Treats Women

He Will remain faithful to the woman in his life
He will use his sexual allure to his own gain, but will remain faithful
He will have daliances with other women for his own gain
If he is unattached he will be more than willing to sleep with other women
He will sleep with other women, but will have his heart set on 'True Love'
He is an out and out womanizer looking for the next conquest
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Oh Buffy!Verse

When I first heard that the Buffy!Verse was continuing in comic book form I was excited. Now I'm sadly disappointed, and have near enough left the fandom. I stopped buying the Season Eight comics quite a while back, mainly because I didn't want to give Scott Allie and Dark Horse another penny. I kept going with Angel: After the Fall more to support IDW than because I was enjoying the comic.

I've now read this at sueworld2003's journal, and am delighed that I stopped buying the season eight comic. In fact I will never buy another Dark Horse comic in the Jossverse while Scott Allie is in charge of the titles. No matter who the writer is. I really dislike the man's attitude, and the way he expresses his opinions.

So seems that filling in the blanks is up to the fanfic writers. Well, with how things are going in the comics that might be for the best. Excellent fanfic writers will do a far better job than the comics have.
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Brian Lynch, I Love You! Again!

A new Spike series by Brian Lynch and a Dru two-parter by Brian Lynch and Juliet Landau! What more could I ask for! CANNOT WAIT!

IDW Panel Bombshell - Major Spoilers

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Oh Gawd, is Brian reading my blog and giving me what I want. A dream come true!

Edit! After last nights Torchwood Trailer I was on an icon snagging frenzy! Uploaded now, if you want to have a look at my new icons go here

All credited and can be snagged!
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Ok, looking at my fandoms, I'm wondering if I really want anything to do with the fandoms. Or how they are going!

I want Spike to have nothing to do with Season Eight Buffy. I don't trust Dark Horse (or even Joss), with his character. I feel totally no love. My original Spuffy shipper as totally died with the first Buffy comic.

I don't want him in Aftermath either. My ideal would be if IDW gave him his own series, and got him out from either Buffy or Angel's shadow!


Getting a bit worried about Sam Wincester in Supernatural as well. I feel too many fans are after his blood, just waiting to jump on him if he does a foot wrong. Not happy!


Doctor Who! Worried it is in danger of becoming too shippy for my tastes. That would so not be my Doctor.


Which leaves me just looking forward to Torchwood. I know it has it's faults, but.......

Oh well, I guess I should just keep an open mind. As long as people don't rip off the actors (I will defriend in a shot), I guess I will survive. Just might leave the fandoms and enjoy the shows or comic!
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Fandomish This and That

Been on a SPN feast for the past couple of days. Been watching the latest episodes, and rewatching favourite from the previous seasons as well. Plot bunnies? No. I am old enough to be their mother, and that is how I feel about them. Just want to protect them, and guess what? Would make for bad fic!

Speaking of which, I know I haven't done the quizzes, but there is a problem. I haven't read the comics yet. Yes there is a reason for this!

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Off to watch more SPN....tries to resist watching "Magic Spot" yet again!
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Early Morning Rambling

So what am I doing up at this ridiculously early time of the morning. Yes it is now 5:48am, and I have been awake for ages. I think it was because I fell asleep yesterday afternoon, and slept too long then. So of course I cannot sleep at night. My own fault really.

I now have all my comics, but haven't read any yet. Really should settle down and do that. Angel: After the Fall #11 arrived yesterday, with Everybody's Dead, the last one. It is still sitting in it's packaging. Oh when they first came out and I couldn't wait to get my hands on them, and read them. Still I intend to do the quizzes, so will knuckle down and have them all read at some point today. I have lots of hours to fill anyway, because I shall not let myself go to sleep this afternoon, so I can get some sleep at night. Need to get back into routine.

Right, off to rescue the spider in my bath, and have a bath myself.
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Where I am just now

Well, was going to do the quiz, but I thought, as Angel #11 came out, I would wait until I get my copy of that before doing the quiz. It gets posted to me, so hopefully I will get it soon.

Was thinking about Angel: After the Fall, and really, the three First Night issues, I think, should've been released separately. The break has pulled me out of the main story arc slightly. To be honest I don't think the pay off was good enough to do that either. I think that First Night was hyped up, and didn't live up to expectations. Except for Gunn. I also think that having varied artists in a series of comics can be very hit and miss. I found that with Tales of the Slayers and Tales of the Vampires as well. Maybe I just don't like change.

I hope everyone as a wonderful time at writerconuk, and really enjoy your weekend. My flist is going to be quiet without you!
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Results for the Comics Jumping the Shark Poll

Well, despite being pimped around LJ, the poll only got 55 votes. Maybe it should've been are you full of apathy for the comics poll! Anyway poor Buffy didn't do too well I am sorry to say, with 5 people saying her comic is a good continuation of her story, and another 11 votes from them both being a good continuation meant she got 16 positive votes overall, while 16 said she jumped the shark, and another 12 votes saying they had both jumped the shark, making it 27 jumping the shark votes for Buffy Season Eight.

Angel did better with 11 saying it is a good continuation of the series, added to the 11 for both meant he got 22 positive votes. For Angel jumping the shark got 0, he did get 12 from the both comics jumping the shark.

Buffy Season Eight good continuation of the series 16
Buffy Season Eight jumping the shark 28

Angel: After the Fall good continuation of the series 22
Angel: After the Fall jumping the shark 12

Edit the poll is now closed!