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But seriously...

So, I have a question for my female friends and female-presenting non-binary friends.
For those of us who present as 'feminine' in the more traditional sense (can be having longer hair, wearing skirts or other 'girly' clothing, being soft-spoken and so forth): do you find people are more ready to question your knowledge than they do that of women who are seen as less 'girly' in presentation? It was noticeable in my last academic jobs that my female colleagues with short hair who dressed in suits tended to be taken more seriously than the rest of us, and were less likely to be asked to undertake extra admin jobs and to do emotional caretaking.
I'd be interested in hearing the experiences of others about this.

Skirt of the day: Blue-tiered the 2nd (as distinct from the beloved, much worn, fragile blue tiered the first.)

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ms_cataclysm
May. 11th, 2016 03:48 pm (UTC)
Candidates for the Richard Head Memorial Award are everywhere. There is no suit so sharp, no bob so sculpted that they will put off all attempts to offload girly chores on you but they do help.

http://www.thedressforsuccesscolumn.com/



Incidentally, John Molloy who wrote Dress for Success is still alive and has a blog

http://www.thedressforsuccesscolumn.com/
ms_cataclysm
May. 11th, 2016 03:58 pm (UTC)
John Molloy's 2016 dress for success advice -it's all about colours and jackets
The rules for women in offices in companies where they are introducing a casual dress code are basically the same. The one difference is when they are forced to dress casually at work they usually have to spend considerably more because obviously expensive designer accessories become essential to a woman executive’s image.



While at one time the introduction of a casual dress code often killed women’s careers today that is not the case. You will notice that the president while making specific recommendations for the men he let the women define business casual for themselves. This indicates that he has thought long and hard about the subject. The female equivalent of the male suit is a jacket it says the wearer is competent and has authority. As a result if it is combined with appropriate garments it gives some women a visual advantage over men in a casual environment.



You may ask yourself why women aren’t considered casually dressed when wearing jackets. The answer is color. If a woman’s jacket is in a powerful feminine color, eg. red, maroon brown, tan, green or even yellow her dress is looked upon as casual by a majority of businessmen and women, This gives women while dressed casually the advantage of wearing a power garment..
la_marquise_de_
May. 11th, 2016 04:12 pm (UTC)
Re: John Molloy's 2016 dress for success advice -it's all about colours and jackets
Oh, that's interesting: thank you!
And I note it keeps in the higher cost element, too. We are expected to be on trend, while the men wear the same 3 suits for years.
ms_cataclysm
May. 11th, 2016 04:40 pm (UTC)
Re: John Molloy's 2016 dress for success advice -it's all about colours and jackets
It is a big problem -but not just for women.

One of my old employers actually got Suzie Faux in to advise us junior and middle managers (both male and female) how to fake a success wardrobe on a budget.

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