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I'd be very surprised if anyone wrote Living With Ghosts fanfic, but as far as I'm concerned, if you wish to, that's fine. The book is out there. But, as others have said, I probably won't read it, mainly for legal reasons.
I've written fanfic myself, back in the day. As it happens, I never wrote in any background created by a single writer. It didn't appeal, but accept that other people do want to do this. It doesn't squick me.

However, what I do object to is mobbing, cyber-bullying and outright abuse directed as people with whom one disagrees. Here's the thing: people are allowed to have different opinions. They are allowed to think something is dull or even pointless. Me? I do not see the point of soccer or cricket. I find obsession with either kind of silly. But I accept that other people love them.
I firmly believe that my friends are all sane, reasonable, decent and honourable and that they are as horrified by bullying in all its forms as I am.
Disagreement is fine. Sending aggressive and abusive messages is not. Finding ways to send these personally if a thread or entry is closed is right out.
Please, please, do disagree with me. I like to discuss stuff. If it's matters Celtic and historical, I may get very technical but I will still engage. But I can't condone bullying.


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May. 18th, 2010 09:19 am (UTC)
Yes, I have been extremely upset at the tone of the discussion myself. I did learn something from last year and ran away from it. Frankly, I can see getting my knickers in a twist about racism, but about fanfic? That would be silly.
I recognize many of the same dysfunctional social mechanisms, too, but without the saving graces of it actually being an important discussion that could teach people a lot.
Sometimes I despair of fandom. :-(
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May. 18th, 2010 05:23 pm (UTC)
Precisely. In our own space, we can say what we think. But mobbing is inappropriate.
May. 18th, 2010 09:46 am (UTC)
What little I've seen looks silly and unpleasant. Thank you for being sensible and tolerant in the face of drama.

I tend not to write book fanfic--I think I write because I want to see my 'book of the film'. But then I don't write much of anything.

But I do know a lot of good medieval lit would never have been written if the first Tristan, Arthur or Reynard Fox story had copyrighted the characters.
May. 18th, 2010 01:51 pm (UTC)
Yes. Whatever the situation, there is no convincing someone to think differently by hammering them with mob shouts and abuse.
May. 18th, 2010 05:04 pm (UTC)
Cyberbullying has become a Thing. There are places I won't go and topics I won't mention because bullies troll those places and those keywords and go piranha.

All I can say is that I hope they get a taste of their own medicine sooner rather than later. If it costs them a job or a school placement they really wanted, well, that's too bad. As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
May. 18th, 2010 05:37 pm (UTC)
I beginning to feel rather more glad that I have managed not to encounter this discussion on line than disappointed that I have managed not to encounter this discussion on line.
May. 18th, 2010 05:47 pm (UTC)
Whatever I think of someone's opinion, I would never, I hope, bully them about it. I do think some of these discussions get overheated for no good reason. I have written fanfic, but only for TV shows (unless you count the very bad James Bond story I wrote when I was about 10!) and I am rather glad I don't write it any more, as the kind of stuff I enjoyed writing would probably get me ... yes, bullied! now.
May. 18th, 2010 07:35 pm (UTC)
We discussed this earlier today.

A open post on LJ or anywhere else will invite comment, and people will express their opinions - though the ones I have seen, even when in disagreement, have mostly argued the copyright position (about which I now know more than I did a week ago) or have said "I think you are wrong for such and such a reason but I will abide by your decision." Other people will express their opinions elsewhere on LJ or the blogosphere, and some of them will be sharply worded. However, reading them is a personal choice.

However, what is not acceptable, in any sense, is personal abuse, aimed specifically at anyone, whether it is in comments, e-mail or messaging. The difference is that these cannot be avoided and you are right, it is bullying, and bullies are not nice people. It is invading personal space. It is harassment and stalking.

It has to be said that someone 'outed' the name of a fan who had done nothing worse that help organise a charity auction of fan fic on Diana G.'s blog, and that is not on, either.

Disagreement, on the other hand, is legitimate.

Edited at 2010-05-18 07:38 pm (UTC)
May. 18th, 2010 08:55 pm (UTC)
Bullying on either die -- including outing in that way -- is not on. Disagreement, indeed, is fine. It's the personal abuse that isn't.
May. 19th, 2010 11:38 am (UTC)
Roger and I were talking last night about whether the internet has made life a nastier place ...
May. 20th, 2010 08:02 am (UTC)
What happened? As for bullies, I hate them too having been a victim when I was at school. :(
May. 20th, 2010 08:25 am (UTC)
I'll email you. I'm fine, though.
There is no excuse for bullying.
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