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Jan. 5th, 2010 @ 12:05 am poke poke poke poke her how low
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I know what you're thinking: Oh, geez, Nirvana and Lady Gaga. Yet another mashup with "Smells Like Teen Spirit" in it. Yet another mashup with "Poker Face" in it. Peanut butter. Strawberries. How original. The weird thing, though, is that this mashup actually sounds pretty okay! And not just if you ignore the discordances and tilt your ears eighteen degrees to the side (as is the case for so many other unlikely mashups).

Thanks to Big Fishy for the heads up.
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From:drabheathen
Date:January 5th, 2010 02:33 pm (UTC)
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From:erf_
Date:January 5th, 2010 10:33 pm (UTC)
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So THAT'S who runs Playfish! I only managed to trace them as far as the UK--their public presence, aside from their games and this article, has not been huge. Still trying to find out who runs Castle Age--it's suspicious how scarce they are making themselves.

I agree with Segerstråle's assessment of social gaming, although coming from the CEO of Playfish it's mostly marketing bullshit. That's where the art form is going but Playfish isn't taking it there. Country Story isn't any more a multiplayer, get-out-in-the-world-and-be-with-real-people game than SimCity 3000 (which let you download your friends' cities and interact with them in vague, hands-off ways). Putting it on Facebook doesn't make it any less of an excuse to not actually go out into the world and spend time with people, rather than sit at home on your computer and water your crops every couple of hours. The real challenge is to make "Should I go outside and hang out with my friends or should I play video games?" a non-decision.

I am taking a stab at this problem with a little side project of mine on the Nintendo DS (not my lasers pew pew game). At best, it will a simple little game that people can play while having a life. At worst, it will be the most annoying, intrusive game ever. At very best, it will be both. :]
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From:impactbomb
Date:January 5th, 2010 04:22 pm (UTC)
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My favorite "Smells Like Teen Spirit" mashup is still one I've only found through a fanvid - bananainpyjamas' Break Teen Spirit in Four Minutes. (It's worth watching the vid, too.)
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From:erf_
Date:January 5th, 2010 10:02 pm (UTC)
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aaaaaaahh so fucking hardcore

I really wish I had seen that film when it was out in theaters. Funny how the advertising did the opposite of what it's supposed to do: it convinced me the film was nothing special before I had even seen it.

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From:impactbomb
Date:January 5th, 2010 10:24 pm (UTC)
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It's a fucking beautiful vid. The editing in that thing's so tight I'd swear the vidder got blisters making it, honestly.

Oh, same here; the only reason I gave a damn was because of the original comics' spectacularly puerile facemash into the superhero genre and I was intrigued to see how much of that was retained in a movie infamously based off only the script to the first issue of the miniseries.

It turns out, not so much, and yet, quite a bit - the movie is just as juvenile and ridiculously geeky-machismo-laden as the comic in totally different directions, and the ending line for both is a case in point - "What the fuck have you done lately?" versus "This is my face while I'm fucking you in the ass" are, in fact, not so different in context and ultimate intent, but they're worlds apart in execution and tonal impact. And here is where a dissertation on the similarities and differences between the superhero comic in the early half of the decade and the action movie in the back half would go if I had the capacity for such a topic while headachey; suffice to say, I can see where Timur Bekmambetov got there from where Mark Millar intended to go, and actually like Bekmambetov's totally idiotic plot over Millar's much more coherent but much more audience-insulting/audience-baiting narrative choices. (Millar's comic hates its audience far more than Bekmambetov's movie does - Millar is actively furious with them for being idiots and accepting what he's peddling, Bekmambetov's just a peddler who wants to inspire.)

They're pretty fucking flawed works, in some ways crippled by their inability to realize when the conclusions they've drawn are just a little too fucking stupid to hold up to intense scrutiny. I love talking about and looking at responses to both, though, to be honest: lots of interesting gristle to gnaw on in the interplay between the source and the audience there, and so much of it was intentional.

ETA: self, that was the same statement you just made twice there when you thought you were making two. let's take one of those "inability to realize" bits out, shall we? yes.

Edited at 2010-01-05 10:28 pm (UTC)
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From:erf_
Date:January 5th, 2010 10:39 pm (UTC)
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Your low estimation of the film's intelligence just makes me want to see it more. (Your enthusiasm for the film's stupidity is infectious, also.)

Maybe that's why the advertising for this film was so cynical: "Hey moviegoers, it's a film about gorgeous cinematography of people shooting each other in the face. If that's all you really care about, this film is so totally for you."
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From:impactbomb
Date:January 5th, 2010 11:02 pm (UTC)
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Oh, it's a stupid movie - but it's a gloriously stupid movie, is what it is. It's by Timur Bekmambetov, how can it be anything else? It fakes being smart so well sometimes, you can be forgiven for buying into its delusions. But it's much more enjoyable at the end of the day if you realize it's basically an awesome action-movie pileup designed to get you so revved up you want a better fucking world at the end of it, and that it doesn't mind looking like an idiot getting there. (Since it's already apparent I like the movie better, I think, I feel I should at least say why: I appreciate its unself-conscious dumbfuckery over the awkward self-awareness of the comic it was based on. There's a certain point after which using metatextual irony and ironic distance from the genre in your story is just skullfucking a horse corpse and I'm pretty sure the comic came after it, is all I'm saying.)

Cynicism and WANTED kind of go hand in hand, and then they - kind of don't. It's fascinating that way. But yeah, the trailers were hilarious! They made it out to be such a generic actioner, which it ... is, but also isn't. And I hesitate to claim that it's a movie with much nuance because it so very obviously isn't, but the trailers did remove what little impact it might have had by focusing so heavily on just the hotness without any attention to even a tiny smidgen of the narrative arc. (Okay, they at least got the part where Angelina Jolie hits on James McAvoy into the trailers, I'll give them that.)

Honestly, though, it's just a really dumb movie that's really fun to look at and, occasionally, to think about, and sometimes that's all you really need, yeah?