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21 June 2012 @ 11:49 am
the music was so terrible though  
Okay so in the end I only watched ep 1, 3 and 5 of True Love, the first two because David Tennant and Billie Piper and the last one because a) Kaya Scodelario's character is in it and b) Hannah told me to for some reason.

  • So Nick's episode was definitely the worst, sorry David Tennant. I talked about this before but jesus what an unlikable leading man lmao, as well as an unlikable ~*other woman*~ and other woman's sister. I guess in ep 2, Michelle (the sister's) husband cheats on her. KARMA? Or is everyone in Margate just cheating on their wives? Possibly both.

  • Billie Piper's ep (~Holly~) was definitely the best. It had the most interesting scenario -- I mean student/teacher isn't exactly groundbreaking, but it's way more interesting than "dude cheats on wife" that we got in three other episodes, so whatever.

  • David Morrissey's episode was alright. Him + Gemma Chan were cute and likable.

  • But omg Nick's kid Lorraine is in ep 3 and ep 5 because she's Kaya Scodelario's "best friend" and LOL SHE IS SUCH A BASTARD, look what you've done, Nick. In episode 3 I was kind of like "well okay, this is probably a normal reaction to your best friend sleeping with your teacher". BUT THEN SHE SPENDS ALL OF EPISODE 5 TRYING TO SEDUCE KAREN'S DAD AND BREAK UP HIS RELATIONSHIP WHEN HE REJECTS HER, so, w2g Nick. lmao the whole of ep 5, I just kept thinking "god just call her shitty dad and make him deal with this".

  • Also if Lorraine is 16 and Serena is Nick's ex of 17 years, then ....??? Nick, did you meet, date and knock up Anna from Downton within like, a couple months of losing ~*THE MOST IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP EVERRR**~?? God you continue to be the worst.

  • Kaya Scodelario was the best at improvising, I think, which is kind of funny I guess. Maybe she's done more of it, IDK. Everyone else had those awkward stop/start moments and moments where I could just imagine the actor freezing in panic fumbling for words, lolol. Billie kept going back to "I don't know, um"-type stuff and David Tennant would go quiet for long periods of time but Kaya always had long, solid speeches. IDK four for you, Kaya Scodelario.

  • 25 minutes was pretty short, especially for ep 3 where there's all sorts of issues that don't even get touched on. (lmao Karen WHERE THE HELL IS YOUR DAD? Jesus dad stop talking to hot babes on the internet and pay attention to your kid's life.) Even ep 1 skipped over stuff that you'd think would be important and relevant, like "Nick tells his wife he's the worst and for some reason she doesn't kill him". The only one that I thought was sufficiently handled in about 25 minutes was episode 5, and that largely came at the price of a montage of David Morrissey talking on the phone. Gemma Chan ended up with very little to do.

  • Anyway the unexpected outcome of this was that I ended up shipping the hell out of Karen/Holly despite myself. Whatever, Billie Piper cried. I regret nothing.
fauxkarenfauxkaren on June 21st, 2012 04:42 pm (UTC)
I haven't bothered to hunt down the show.

So all I'm getting from from people shipping Karen/Holly is that a lot of people ship me with Billie Piper. TAKE THAT, OTHER PEOPLE!
Kali: eng :: no living near her_thirty2flavors on June 21st, 2012 04:51 pm (UTC)
Ep3 was the only one particularly worth watching IMO. Ep 5 was okay but I didn't really care and I didn't think it said anything profound or whatever.
captaintish on June 22nd, 2012 04:13 am (UTC)
I haven't seen this show, but everyone over at Tumblr is fangirling Billie's episode. What I haven't seen is any mention of any possible ickiness inherent in student/teacher relationship?

Billie is very good at crying. Basically all the episodes she cries in on Doctor Who are the ones I've cried at. The other episode that made me cry was Vincent and the Doctor. Bottom line: Billie Piper and Vincent Van Gogh = excellent criers.

I am waiting patiently for someone to photoshop the screencaps of the two couples on the beach so that it is TADA: the Doctor and Rose in Pete's World.
Kali: act :: billie piper_thirty2flavors on June 22nd, 2012 04:25 am (UTC)
I think probably most people realize there's big problems with student/teacher and with the fact that Karen is 16. Or at least I do -- my tag for them is "karen and holly you are the most morally dubious thing I've ever shipped", lol. But they were very sweet together and Kaya and Billie were so good that it was impossible for me to root against them. Especially when virtually every other couple in the show were such fuckups and unlikable people, lololol. Billie does walk away from her job in the end, so it's not actually student/teacher at that point I guess, though there's still the ~10 year age gap.

When Billie Piper cries I feel like I am being punched in the grief bone, lol. She's a very messy, real crier and it gets to me.

loool I've seen people try to shop Nick and Holly together, but mostly for the purposes of NIck/Holly. Which I cannot condone on account of Nick being terrible.
captaintish on June 22nd, 2012 04:36 am (UTC)
Yeah, from everything I've seen/read, it was very emotionally compelling. But you know, usually when there's a student/teacher relationship somewhere, there's jail time involved, lol.

Anytime I see real life pictures of David Tennant and Billie Piper together, I like to pretend that it's Cloen and Rose in Pete's World. Living happily ever after.
Kali: dw :: amy :: mad impossible_thirty2flavors on June 22nd, 2012 04:56 am (UTC)
Well Karen is 16, which makes her of legal age for the area, so it's not statutory rape. I think at most Holly could be fired, but she ends up quitting. Admittedly she will probably not get hired at another school lolol so she'd probably have to switch careers. But not illegal AFAIK?
captaintish on June 22nd, 2012 04:59 am (UTC)
Ah, is 16 the legal age in Britain? Is that the drinking age, too? Because I remember when I first started watching Doctor Who, and Rose was 19 and going to the pub..... I was like, wait, what? LOL. Maybe 18 is their drinking age? Which TBH makes a lot more sense than 21. ..... and now I've gotten waaaaay off subject. Heh.
Kali_thirty2flavors on June 22nd, 2012 05:09 am (UTC)
16 is age of consent. I dunno what drinking age is but I think it's 16 too? This is what google got me:

The legal age to consume alcohol with parental consent is 5.

The legal age to consume alcohol (beer, porter, wine and cider only) on licenced premises with food is 16.

The legal age to purchase alcohol, or consume on licenced premises, is 18.

I didn't think anything of Rose being 19, although drinking age in Ontario is 19 (and 18 in other parts of Canada) so it wouldnt' have twigged for me anyway. Pubs in Britain in my experience also aren't solely associated with alcohol over there, unlike the way they are here. They're ~*family establishments lol and close quite early in the night. Whereas a pub over here would do most of its business selling alcohol after 10pm.
captaintish on June 22nd, 2012 05:40 am (UTC)
The legal age to consume alcohol with parental consent is 5.

LOL, for some reason this brings to mind the image of 6-year-old alcoholics.

I think 18 makes the most sense. Here, in the U.S., 18 is the legal age for pretty much everythiing. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to say someone is an adult at 18, but not let them drink. Sure go ahead and poison your lungs with smoking, but heaven forbid you have a beer. I remember that age feeling quite awkward, like I wasn't a kid anymore but I wasn't an adult yet either.

Of course, I'm still wondering when I'll feel like an adult? I'm starting to think it's just never going to happen, lol.
Kali: comm :: bottle episode_thirty2flavors on June 22nd, 2012 03:24 pm (UTC)
Yeah it's strange that you can vote democratically but not be trusted with alcohol. I THINK cigarettes here are 19 as well, so at least that sort of makes sense, but I've never tried to buy cigarettes lol so I don't know for certain. I definitely think 21 is far too old to have as a drinking age though. What's even the benefit? It doesn't actually stop kids from drinking before 21.

wheatearwheatear on June 22nd, 2012 06:30 pm (UTC)
Yeah, drinking age is 18. Some pubs are more like bars and don't really do much food, but a lot are more what I would call pub restaurants, places I'd go out for a meal with family.

Holly was breaking the law by sleeping with Karen even though Karen is 16, because Karen is her student.
Circe: Bad Wolfredcirce on June 22nd, 2012 07:10 am (UTC)
I feel like you could describe the worst plot/writing/tv show/movie ever, but as long as you ended with "...and then Billie Piper cried!" everyone (including me) would think "That sounds extremely compelling and I think I should watch it."
Kali: dw :: doctordonna :: wizard_thirty2flavors on June 22nd, 2012 06:54 pm (UTC)

Billie Piper cries like no one else. Nick cries too but that just made me want to punch him more.
Circe: Ten: drowningredcirce on June 23rd, 2012 06:41 pm (UTC)
Aside from the one sparkly Doomsday tear, which I did find touching, DT tears do nothing for me, besides making me feel vaguely embarrassed for his character. He needs to step it up.
Kali_thirty2flavors on June 23rd, 2012 07:50 pm (UTC)
lol I think he's good at crying in the sense that -- I get that awkward, embarrassed feeling too but I find it very realistic, like that's how I feel when someone in real life starts crying in front of me, like "well this is horrible what is happening" (I'm pretty sure there's a Liz Lemon gifset that sums this up better, with her awkwardly patting someone and saying DON'T... BE... CRY).

But it's a) a different feeling than when Billie Piper cries, which is more like OMG LET ME FIX THIS IMMEDIATELY and also b) it helps that I don't usually want to punch Billie Piper's characters in the face.
Siedemnasty Doktorpitrah606 on June 23rd, 2012 08:06 pm (UTC)
DT tears make me laugh very loudly, seriously. Well, maybe except John Smith's, but that was just once. :D
Kali_thirty2flavors on June 23rd, 2012 09:28 pm (UTC)
Siedemnasty Doktor: [dw] Rose: smilingpitrah606 on June 23rd, 2012 09:32 pm (UTC)
My heart clinched at John Smith D:

But I wholeheartedly fuck the Dave from "Single Father". I hate him as much as Nick, srsly.
Kali: act :: dten :: i can't do it!_thirty2flavors on June 23rd, 2012 09:51 pm (UTC)

lol I only saw the first episode of Single Father, which was just a relatively well-done sad story about the mother of a big family dying! And I remember liking his performance in that/thinking it was powerful.

And then I did not watch the rest so I did not get to watch everyone on the show transform into illogical douchebags.
Siedemnasty Doktor: [dw] Time Lord Douchebagpitrah606 on June 23rd, 2012 10:26 pm (UTC)
He takes crying lessons from Rose, that's why I can forgive him basically everything.

Seriously, I tried very very hard not to facepalm at Single Father AND I failed horribly. What a shame. I quitted this shit after second episode and I AM NOT GOING TO BACK TO THIS. SORRY, DAVID,

David Tennant's carrier choices saddens me REALLY, REALLY HARD. The "Policitician Husband" will be SO LOL

Edited at 2012-06-23 10:30 pm (UTC)
Circe: Ten: drowningredcirce on June 25th, 2012 05:37 am (UTC)
I do feel kind of bad, because it does look like he puts a lot of effort into his crying, and it's real crying, etc. etc...

But no, totally with you. All the "Single Father" and "Human Nature" and "raining on my face" .gifs used in reaction posts don't help.

Sorry DT, I have no soul and your tears make me giggle.
wheatearwheatear on June 22nd, 2012 06:31 pm (UTC)
Also I am really glad I didn't watch DT's episode from what you've said about it. :P
Kali: dw :: ten :: i can see that_thirty2flavors on June 23rd, 2012 07:51 pm (UTC)
lol you missed nothing, his character was awful + the story was unsympathetic.
doctahr: Nine/Rose Happy Ninedoctahr on June 23rd, 2012 07:36 pm (UTC)
Kali: act :: billie piper_thirty2flavors on June 23rd, 2012 07:45 pm (UTC)

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Kali: sd :: like a bullet to the brain_thirty2flavors on June 25th, 2012 07:53 pm (UTC)
lol aw

I was going to be like IT'S NOT THE WORST THING I'VE SEEN but I've seen some terrible things and this wasn't the best.