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03 July 2011 @ 07:29 pm
montreal, game of thrones + top 5 bromances  
I. I spent Canada Day with sweetcherrytree! Finally! The world did not implode in a paradox so possibly we have Steven Moffat to thank. Canada Day in Quebec is hilarious to me, because being both Ontarian and from the nation's capital I am used to UNENDING PATRIOTISM and a SEA OF RED AND WHITE but lol that is not how Quebec rolls. There were lots of bouncy castles for children (PRINCESS PALACE for girls and CREEPY MEAN DOG THING for boys, thanks world) and someone gave me a little paper flag and then Kelly and I celebrated with a Canada Day nap because it was hot as balls. There was this one point when we were waiting for the fireworks when the DJ was having technical difficulty and to pass the time he was like LET'S SING O CANADA!! and the crowd made it through one line before abandoning ship.

Kelly also provided me a Snuggie to sleep in which lol is the first time I have used a Snuggie. They are hilarious. It is like you are a sleepy wizard.

II. At Kelly's I also saw the first four episodes of Game of Thrones, and since I've come home I've caught up to episode 6. I'll probably make a more complete post when I finish the season but here are some basic thoughts. I am liking this show a lot more than I thought I would -- I expected to find it very dull because I find most Ye Olde Politiks shows really boring, but I guess there is enough HBO-style blood and sex to keep me paying attention, lol. I think watching with Kelly was really convenient because I could just ask her to clarify who everyone was and what was going on whenever I was confused, and now I can mostly manage on my own though there are some characters whose names I do not know at all.

Random thoughts:
  • I started calling Joffrey "Draco" and I have no plans to stop. It is too accurate. The actor is literally like a Harry/Draco fanart come to life and he is such a whiny, spoilt little shit and lololol it just cracks me up. Cersei can be Narcissa too tbh, I mean the whole wank with Arya and the wolf was basically like Buckbeak except now with more injustice, gdi Draco. DOGS DYING IS THE SADDEST THING so I was very distressed by this whole event.
  • Speaking of, I want an attack wolf!
  • Harry Lloyd's character was hysterical and he just died at the end of the episode I just watched and I am upset because he brought me so much entertainment. The combo of him being Baines and also being a whiny manchild with delusions of grandeur who called himself "the dragon" was just so funny. I knew he was going to die, but still, NOW WHO WILL REFER TO THEMSELVES IN THIRD PERSON AS 'THE DRAGON'? I am hoping Daenerys starts.
  • I like Daenerys and I'm appreciating her development but I'm still sort of side-eyeing that she and her husband are now kind of tight. I mean, good for her I guess for learning to use her position in the Dothraki society to her advantage? Being ~Kaleesi~ or whatever. But also like... the rape scenes and the subsequent love (?), idk. Curious to see how it plays out, though I am predicting she will become a badass warrior queen.
  • Arya is fucking awesome too. I really like her in general but I was especially pleased with the scene where she talks to her daddy about how her brothers get to be knights and shit and what does she get? and he's all WELL YOU CAN MARRY A GREAT MAN AND HAVE GREAT SONS :D and she's like WTF THAT'S NOT ME THOUGH. Poor Arya and the shitty society she lives in. Also, throwing Draco's sword in the lake ftw.
  • Sansa on the other hand ugh. I mean, I'm finding Sansa/Draco really hysterical and such but I am always torn between "lol" and "I think you're 14 and you're an idiot". And her "wait, I just realized I don't care" bit with the nurse (???) or whatever didn't seem badass to me, if it was supposed to, it seemed pointlessly rude. When Arya is bratty she usually has good reason to be bratty. Sansa was just sulking.
  • lol Jon Snow and his emo face
  • I also really enjoy Tyrion, which I am told is a really popular opinion, but I can see why. He is pretty chill and hilarious.
  • The thing about a cast this large is that there are some characters I care about more than others and so when you have an episode focusing mostly on the characters I care less about, I am obviously less interested. Littlefinger (...worst name tbh) and Ned and Robert and whoever, I do not care so much when it is all about them. I want more Daenerys and her hilarious brother (~RIP~ dragon), more Tyrion, and more Arya. On the other hand, I haven't seen Jon in ages and no1curr frankly. I haven't found the balance to be too bad yet, but I know there was an episode one or two back that I found sort of dull because it focused on the characters I am ambivalent towards. The only characters I actively dislike so far are Cersei and Draco and whatever (YOU KILLED AN ADORABLE INNOCENT ATTACKWOLF, GRUDGE 4EVER) but they're sort of ~the villains~ rn so I guess that is to be expected.

III. Lastly, more meme:
Top 5 Bromances for johnmayergirl23

Apparently I pay attention to fewer bromances than I realized, because I got to like... 2 and was like "what now?"

5. Harry Potter & Ron Weasley (Harry Potter)

art by twirlynoodle

It may surprise you that this is not higher, given how much I love Harry Potter. But I was never that in love with the trio in particular, and of the trio Hermione was my favourite so ... sorry, boys. But LOL no one can deny the depth of their bromance. Apparently the thing 14-year-old Harry would miss most in the world would be Ron.

4. Marshall Eriksen & Barney Stinson & Ted Mosby (How I Met Your Mother)

I could not pick two in particular, because I remember back in the day when this show didn't suck I liked Marshall and Barney's interactions a lot and I find Ted generally kind of annoying. But he has some good bro moments with both of them, so it can be a three-way bromance I guess.

3. James Potter & Sirius Black (Harry Potter)

art by twirlynoodle

Omg I almost wrote this entire list and forgot about them, which is shameful given the many thousands of words of fanfiction I have written on this very topic. I could probably have just listed "the Marauders in general" but tbqh I was always the most invested in James and Sirius in particular. I mean, Sirius goes actually crazy when James dies which is apparently something I like?

2. Troy Barnes & Abed Nadir (Community)

TROY AND ABED IN THE MOOOORNING. The Troy/Abed bromance is pretty legendary and clearly a cornerstone of Community's... everything. Their scenes together are typically among my favourite and I think it is quite safe to say I am more invested in their friendship than I am or ever will be in the romantic ships on this show.

Also this video exists and is hilarious:

1. John Dorian & Christopher Turk (Scrubs)

JD and Turk wrote the song about bromance. Literally. It does not get any more bromantic than this:

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Kali: dw :: rory :: spoiler alert_thirty2flavors on July 3rd, 2011 11:56 pm (UTC)
I love that moment too! I always get mildly horrified when JD says he loves Elliot more than Turk in the Hawaii episode ngl. And I have seen that cover! It's pretty great, though I must say the lyric changes mean it loses some of the ~magic for me.

LOLOL I was in Montreal and did not have any poutine, which is probably a great waste on my part.
demented & sad, but socialpapilio_luna on July 3rd, 2011 11:48 pm (UTC)
I've caught up to episode 7

Gurl, you don't know how proud of you I am rn. I basically concur with all your opinions. I had a hard time getting past the first episode because of the whole Daenerys/Drogo situation (especially because on the night it aired, The Borgias basically had the exact same scene and I was like CAN WE NOT WITH THIS PLEASE). This is also the one place where the show is different from the books in a significant/bad way. In the book, Drogo isn't just like "Imma rape you now" there's like an actual sort-of negotiation between them and it's about as consensual as you can get for an arranged marriage between two people who don't know each other and between whom a vast power difference exists. So now, in my head, I just pretend that was the scene they filmed instead of the one that actually exists.

And, as has been established as 100% factually true, Tyrion is the best thing ever and hands-down my favourite character in both the book and the show. In the book he's also supposed to be super ugly on top of being a dwarf, but Peter Dinklage is..... not ugly. Unf. Putting that in the "differences between book and show that are positive" column.
Kali: dw :: ten/rose :: in the face of danger_thirty2flavors on July 3rd, 2011 11:54 pm (UTC)

That is a very odd decision to make re: Daenerys/Drogo. Ugh @ someone in the writing room being like YOU KNOW WHAT WILL MAKE THIS BETTER, MORE RAPE.

I like Tyrion a lot. I don't know if I have a distinct favourite right now/yet but he is in the top 3. I think he was one of the people missing from the one episode I found kind of dull.

Putting that in the "differences between book and show that are positive" column.

lol IA. Earlier Tay was like "basically it's a lot of good looking people being morally ambiguous in a medieval world" and this seems like a concise and accurate summary.
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fauxkarenfauxkaren on July 3rd, 2011 11:54 pm (UTC)
Yay! I am glad that you are enjoying Game of Thrones! Whenever someone asks me to explain it to them, I find it hard to articulate because basically it's about some families struggling for power. But it's so much better than it sounds.

My favorite characters are THE ENTIRE STARK FAMILY. lol. I love them all, even Sansa (...except Jon- CHEER UP EMO KID.) I stan especially hard for Catelyn, but that's mostly because she gets a lot of hate from fandom (kind of like Rose does from the Doctor Who fandom) so I get extra defensive.. And ofc I love Tyrion.

The stuff between Dany and her husband was changed from the books, but imo it's just as bad. In the books, their wedding night is nice and he's patient and stuff. But then the first weeks of the marriage are still him pounding her from behind while she cries because it hurts. UUUGH. Idk. I find it really hard to love their relationship because it DOES start so screwed up. Ah well. My otp for this series is Ned and Cat. CAT/NED OTP FOREVER AND EVER.

The HIMYM bromances are epic and wonderful, as are Troy and Abed and Turk and JD. But when it comes to Ron and Harry, much like you I cared more about Hermione.
Kali: dw :: smith & jones :: freelance_thirty2flavors on July 4th, 2011 12:07 am (UTC)
I like the Starks, they are easily my favourite family but then we haven't seen much of any of the others, except the Lannisters who are almost all douches. lol and the Ta-whatevers with Daenerys and ~THE DRAGON~, whose name I don't even know. I don't have any beef with Cat -- I don't love her, because so far I haven't been exceptionally interested in the stuff she's done, but I also don't have a problem with any of it or see any of it as like, proof she is a terrible person or whatever. I thought it was pretty bamf how she fought off the assassin with help from Attack Wolf.

Yeahhhhhhh I'm not sure about the Daenerys/Drogo storyline tbh, I will reserve judgement until I finish the season I guess and see how it ends (or ends for the time being) but... yeahhhhhh. Ick. I don't really have a ship bt that is okay/my natural state of being.

christycorr on July 3rd, 2011 11:59 pm (UTC)
Joffrey = totally Draco, and fanart!Draco at that. I've adopted the nickname since I first saw the actor's face, I mean seriously.

Re: Daenerys' rape scene—that was kind of odd, in my opinion, because in the book their first time he's all attentive and stuff, enough so that she has what seems to be a pretty great time from the get-go. I think the only purpose of that particular adaptation choice (apart from historical accuracy or whatever) was to have the quasi-lesbian scene later on where the slave teaches Daenerys how to make the Khal let her make the calls in bed.

I LOVE ARYA SO MUCH. She's such a little badass, I feel so bad for her ~free spirit~ trapped in all that heteronormativity ♥

Sansa's annoying, but...*shrugs* she goes through stuff later on, so yeah. Her nurse is called a "septa," fyi.

I love Cersei, though. Not as a person—God, she's horrid—but she's a fabulous villain, I think. I like how her mind works, but of course Tyrion > Cersei as far as Lannisters go.

JD and Turk = so much love.

But in a totally maaaanly waaaaaay!
Kellysweetcherrytree on July 4th, 2011 12:02 am (UTC)
lmao at you being on LJ for the first time in months
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Anya: got → the beggar kingerethesunrises on July 4th, 2011 12:05 am (UTC)
I would be very hesitant in comparing Joffrey to Draco. I know a lot of people did it in the beginning but just...don't get attached to that comparison. Not saying anything but yeah, some people are pretty passionate and against people calling Joffrey the new Draco.

VISERYS IS MY BOY. HE'S SO BATSHIT AND I LOVE HIM SO MUCH. lololol oh Viserys. xD Dany is really, really great and her relationship with Drogo progressed differently in the book but omg total OTP.

I love Arya and I'm starting to accept Sansa's maturing arc, tbh. I was bothered by Sansa in the beginning as well but by the end she struck me as a character I could grow to appreciate.Also, Tyrion is flawless. And I don't care about Jon Snow either, lol.

JAMES AND SIRIUS BROMANCE FOREVER. Actually, I love all all your choices so, so much.
fauxkarenfauxkaren on July 4th, 2011 12:19 am (UTC)
Harry Lloyd really should have submitted himself for an Emmy because OMG. I hated Viserys SO MUCH in the books, but Harry Lloyd actually made me feel super sorry for him. He was just kind of pathetic and sad.
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aleph: not if i kill you firstlacunaz on July 4th, 2011 12:06 am (UTC)
Who goes to Quebec for Canada Day


I watched Game of Thrones with my sister, and I did really enjoy it. Though I was definitely that person that sits there and goes "who is this person? Have we met them? What's their name? What's going on? IDGI" on a few occasions. It's a good thing HBO has all those maps and family trees.
Kellysweetcherrytree on July 4th, 2011 12:09 am (UTC)
don't act like you weren't jelly

I love all the HBO maps/explanations! I saved them so I could read them later, such fun ^__^
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sherrilina: Arthur/Chicken (Merlin)sherrilina on July 4th, 2011 12:07 am (UTC)
Heh, I pretty much agree on everything GoT, though I mostly found ~The Dragon~ annoying (but I can see the lulz too), and while I also have issues with D/D b/c of the rape thing, I do think I ship it a little in the end. But yeah, JS is not doing anything for me, I spent most of his scenes going, "so what about his pet wolf, when are we gonna see it?!". Arya and Tyrion are awesome...and wow, I did not see it before but you are spot on about Joffrey!

And re: James/Sirius, NGL I totally ship it (my only slash of the series) b/c of Sirius going cray cray in his angsting over James, much like how my love for D/R deepened post-Doomsday. :p
Kali: dw :: rose :: dream of him sometimes_thirty2flavors on July 4th, 2011 12:36 am (UTC)
OMG Ikr Jon's scenes would be so much better if they had 100% more wolf in them. I miss the attack wolves! They are awesome! I want one!

I wouldn't say I shipped it, but I was closer to shipping that than to any of the other slash ships that were big in that fandom.
deathisyourartdeathisyourart on July 4th, 2011 12:14 am (UTC)
We pretty much save the national Anthem singing for Hockey games in this province :P
Kellysweetcherrytree on July 4th, 2011 12:22 am (UTC)
i like and agree with almost everything in this post


also i am extremely glad you are continuing on with GoT, it is wonderful ^__^
Kali_thirty2flavors on July 4th, 2011 12:38 am (UTC)
I am enjoying it! I see I WOKE THE DRAGON that is rape wank though, oops.
Liz: Community: crumpingbazcat89 on July 4th, 2011 12:35 am (UTC)
Kali: comm :: brotp :: in the mooorning!_thirty2flavors on July 4th, 2011 12:39 am (UTC)
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only arceus can have a perfect blog: bran wanted to be a knight.spud14 on July 4th, 2011 12:39 am (UTC)
Now whenever I have the bath on too hot instead of wincing at the pain my butt goes through I am just all like I AM THE BLOOD OF THE DRAGON so I guess GOT has changed me.
Kali_thirty2flavors on July 4th, 2011 12:39 am (UTC)
omg is that what that was about, LOLOLOL I was like "wtf" for that scene but then forgot it existed
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Duchess - ﺷﻴﻞ: [GoT] Daeneryskazutakia on July 4th, 2011 12:58 am (UTC)
YAYAYAY I'm so happy you're watching more of GoT!! One of these days you'll have to get around to reading the books too, but all in good time *still getting through Storm of Swords*

and this macro sums up Jon Snow's entire storyline IMO:
Kali_thirty2flavors on July 4th, 2011 01:32 pm (UTC)
As it stands I don't really have any interest in the books, except that I think I'll probably have to read them because otherwise the internet will spoil me for everything that happens anyway and I might as well be spoiled by the books and not ONTD. But it is kind of a shame because I would rather just watch the show and not know what was going to happen.

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Let Them Talkbluetooth16 on July 4th, 2011 01:00 am (UTC)

captaintish on July 4th, 2011 01:50 am (UTC)
Gus and Shawn == BEST BROMANCE EVER.

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Hannahfirstofoct on July 4th, 2011 01:34 am (UTC)
Great bromances! I agree with all of them! Especially the top two! Perfect.

Also, in anticipation of watching GoT, I skipped that part of your post, but I'll be back to reread it probably after next weekend. I am hopeful that I will like this series.
Kali_thirty2flavors on July 4th, 2011 02:15 pm (UTC)
JD/Turk is the clear first choice!

Yeah good call. There are spoilers in the comments and such as well, ~beware.
proudly hosted on photobucket: [misc] a sexy revolution!cloudydaise on July 4th, 2011 05:04 am (UTC)
Always, always, ALWAYS need more Arya. She is by far my favorite character on this show and as far as I'm concerned every episode should be about her. Every so often we can go see what Daenerys is up to I guess, but yes. Arya for all the wins.

And so many lulz all the time at Jon Snow, his storyline is so boring and dumb and I like him as a character... kind of (w/e he's hot okay), so I want him to go do basically anything else. He and his little wall friends can go on maurading adventures or something. But I'm bored with that monk shit.

Also I haven't read the books yet so I have no idea what happens with any of these people, lol.
Kali: dw :: doctordonna :: snow!_thirty2flavors on July 4th, 2011 02:17 pm (UTC)
Arya is badass though her name spelling makes me read her name differently than it's supposed to be pronounced, since my cousin has the same name but spells it "Aria".

rofl basically, I mean he's pretty I guess and he seems like a nice dude but his manpain and his wall and his bastard angst just bore me. Sometimes his pouty face cracks me up though.

I don't really want to read the books at the moment? We'll see what happens. If I couldjust avoid spoilers until s2 I would do that, but I'm not sure how realistic that is.