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08 October 2010 @ 10:20 pm
30 female characters meme: the brains of the outfit  
I. This week felt loooong. I am not sure why, really, since in theory it was no different from any other week, but oh my god was I glad to finish work today. It’s Thanksgiving weekend, so we get Monday off as well, which is swell. Thanksgiving tends to be something of a non-event in my house, and this year my dad’s in Beijing so it’s just me and my mom, but I am always open to having additional days off work/school. And to anyone who says it’s “not real Thanksgiving”, allow me to direct you to this gif:

II. I also discovered a Canadian station that – gasp! – lets me stream Community, Modern Family and HIMYM online. Legally. To those of you in the US with Hulu or in Britain with iPlayer this probably seems pretty basic, but to that I say F U GUYS. I don’t have anything in particular to say about this week’s crop of shows, though I will say that in a shocking twist I think this week’s Office episode was my favourite of the four I watched.

Also, a question for those of you who watch Community: DID YOU NOTICE THE ABED/BABY/BIRTH PLOTLINE? LOLOLOLOL

I also watched the third (by accident, lol, I thought it was the pilot) episode of that show “Undercovers”. It’s not really my kind of show, so I find it hard to say if it was just me finding it bland or if it was kind of bland, but Gugu Mbatha-Raw is totally adorable and her American accent is A+. I hope it survives long enough to find its feet.

III. I suck at comment ficathons, but I support the theme of this one and I know some of you are into them so I’m going to advertise it anyway:

IV. I am quite bored. I tried writing some s5 fic earlier but that wasn’t happening. Raaagh I miss being able to write (short) fic. Anyway, I’ve returned to my long-forgotten 30 Women Meme.

TOSHIKO SATO of Torchwood

“Are we seriously going to act on something she’s Googled?”

Okay, so there isn’t a whole lot I like about the first two seasons of Torchwood. One of those few things is Tosh, who I maintain is generally too badass to associate with the rest of them. I mean, she built a sonic screwdriver to save her mommy and then wound up getting the V for Vendetta treatment from UNIT. She is clearly a genius (which makes one wonder why she was working for Torchwood) and she stops Cardiff from nuclear meltdown or... whatever... while she is busy dying. Of the numerous deaths in Torchwood I thought hers was the saddest, partly because she’s the only one I liked but also because that meant Torchwood had to try an function without its resident genius, and seeing how Torchwood functioned with a genius, that is a very scary prospect indeed. I think a part of me wanted Tosh and Martha to become BFF. They could’ve opened their own alien-fighting organization, maybe worked with Sarah Jane and her kids sometimes. It would’ve been awesome okay.

I always felt bad for Tosh, because her life pretty consistently sucked. There were the UNIT shenanigans, she was in love with Owen for some reason and he was an asshole, her alien girlfriend turned out to be an evil alien girlfriend, and her frozen-in-time boyfriend… dies or something IDK okay it’s not like I remember Torchwood plotpoints. But despite all this she is a nice, kind, soft-spoken person and not crazy with bitter angry rage.

And then she gets shot and dies a slow painful death. Tough break, Tosh. Hopefully in the afterlife you will be surrounded by a competent team of people. Oh, wait, you inhabit a godless universe and all that awaits you is dark nothingness. Yikes.

PS: While looking for a picture, I wound up on some Torchwood fansite with one-sentence bios of all the characters, and Tosh’s reads Toshiko Sato, the shy computer genius of Torchwood, keeps the team under control, and is the only one who does her job properly. Preach, random fansite.


"Books! And cleverness! There are more important things -- friendship and bravery."

-Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone

So I just finished my reread of Deathly Hallows, and HERMIONE GRANGER, YOU ARE A MOTHERFUCKING CHAMPION. I think if you tried to count the number of times Hermione’s dedication, preparedness, brilliance and instinct saved Harry and/or the wizarding world, you would lose count because she is doing it all the time. She is basically the only reason Harry is alive long enough to kill Voldemort. He pretty much would’ve been fucked back in first year if she weren’t there doing all the work for him. And possibly he would’ve flunked school, too.

I don’t think I ever really appreciated the SHEER AWESOME BADASSERY of Hermione until afterwards, tbh, because while I was in the fandom I had such tunnel-vision. She was however always my favourite of the trio, and now that is amplified by fifty as I realize how great she is. And because Harry and Ron are teenage boys and kind of assholes, she deals with so much insensitivity/wankery/general assholery from the two of them all the time, they’re constantly either teaming up against her or putting her in the middle, and most of the time she has the patience of a saint. She can be a little self-righteous, a bit naggy and something of a know-it-all, but her heart is always in the right place and she does what she thinks is right.

Also, if Harry had accepted early on that “Hermione is Always Right” was a cardinal rule, things might have been a bit easier, tbqh.

In conclusion, Hermione Granger > you.
juliet316: Torchwood:  Toshjuliet316 on October 9th, 2010 02:26 am (UTC)
I still want to believe Suzie said there's nothing just to stick it to Jack and Co. That or she just doesn't remember where she went when she was dead.

But yes, Tosh rules mightily.
Kali: tw :: best place to angst_thirty2flavors on October 9th, 2010 02:34 am (UTC)
Don't the dead guy and Owen say the same thing though? lol I dunno even as an atheist, I'm not gonna lie, Torchwood's constant reptition of "THERE IS NO GOD!!!!!!!!1111111" cracks me up.

Tosh was my favourite. Poor dead Tosh.
(no subject) - juliet316 on October 9th, 2010 02:41 am (UTC) (Expand)
Liz: Office: JAM smileybazcat89 on October 9th, 2010 02:27 am (UTC)

I will always treasure this week's Office for JAM's pissy mumbling scene.


Your dad always travels to awesome places. At some point you should force him to take you along.
Kali: sd :: 'cos my mum got shot_thirty2flavors on October 9th, 2010 02:36 am (UTC)

I didn't know I wanted to see Andy perform in a Sondheim musical until I saw Andy perform in a Sondheim musical. omg lol "omigosh did you write this?" "no... it's Stephen Sondheim..." "Oh, who's that?"


Ugh I KNOW. HDhe work for a company that has money. lirl

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she_burns1: Annieshe_burns1 on October 9th, 2010 02:30 am (UTC)
Abed/Baby!plot was one of the few hilarious moments in an otherwise so-so episode (at least for me).

And yes, yes, YES to Tosh. For various reasons, I couldn't stomach 'Torchwood', but, from what little of it I did watch, she was the bright, shining star. I felt so bad that her alien!girlfriend had to be evil - they were cute together, until, y'know, they weren't anymore since alien!girlfriend was evil...

I would be very, very happy to see some S5 fic from you in the future! Espeically if it has Rory! *shining anime-like eyes of hope*
Kali: dw :: rory :: trust the plastic_thirty2flavors on October 9th, 2010 02:38 am (UTC)
Same! And I didn't even realize it was there until I got online! Well, I noticed the baby, but somehow missed out on Abed being in all those scenes, omg.

Yeah poor Tosh, the narrative is cruel to her. I ended up liking Gwen (and Rhys) a lot in COE, but in s1 and s2 it was pretty much all just Tosh, lol.

Oh, any s5 fic I write will probably feature Rory heavily, since he is... my favourite of the s5 gang, lol. The fic does not seem to be cooperating at the moment though, unfortunately. It sounds better in my head than it does in print.
fauxkarenfauxkaren on October 9th, 2010 02:31 am (UTC)
I didn't notice the Abed plot until I read about it on the Community community (hardy har har). I just posted an entry on my lj in which I documented where the plot crops up. I THOUGHT IT WAS BRILLIANT. LIKE WHOA.

Also, I adore Hermione. I identify with her a lot. I had a tendency to be that really obnoxious know-it-all kind when I was younger. And even though she is awesome and amazing and wonderful, she isn't a saintly and perfect character either. With SPEW her heart is in the right place, but she is doing an awful lot of White Knighting. And she can sink to Ron's level sometimes like in HBP when she invites Cormac as her date to Slughorn's Christmas party. But really I love her. One of my favorite characters in the entire series.
Kali: hp :: man's greatest treasure_thirty2flavors on October 9th, 2010 02:40 am (UTC)
I noticed the baby, but no Abed's involvement, so I, too, had to rewatch the episode! I just read your summary though and I had missed the first bit or two. Best part of the episode, lol.

Yeah, definitely. Hermione has her flaws as a character to balance out her AWESOME POWER, but she's great. I appreciate her more now than I did when I first read the books, and especially on this reread of DH. Damn girl, you're saving everyone!
turtle_goose: DW:  Nine - Don't Be Hatin'turtle_goose on October 9th, 2010 04:15 am (UTC)
Why wouldn't it be a real Thanksgiving??? (Though what do you guys in Canada do about Black Friday???)

Oh, Tosh. She's the only bearable character on TW.
Kali: dw :: smith & jones :: sorry_thirty2flavors on October 9th, 2010 04:48 am (UTC)
IDK BUT AMERICANS SAY IT A LOT WHEN WE MENTION THANKSGIVING. Anddd we don't do Black Friday! Which.. solves that.

LOL Correct. I warmed to Gwen in COE, but I found her irritating in s1 and s2.
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likeatuesday: dandylion fivelikeatuesday on October 9th, 2010 06:41 am (UTC)
WHY YES I DID NOTICE THE BABY PLOTLINE. Actually, it was in the study room scene I noticed a pregnant extra, and I was like, 'oh, whoa, weird, wonder if that'll come back' and spent the next minutes confused when there was no reference to it, and then I started to notice mad weirdness going on in the backgrounds. Oh, show, I do love you.

Approve of the himym gif. That is about all I have to say.
Kali: dw :: doctordonna :: you were right_thirty2flavors on October 9th, 2010 04:15 pm (UTC)
My mom was in the room with me and she noticed the pregnant lady, but I totally didn't. So I ended up noticing the lady giving birth/etc, but I didn't notice Abed was involved until I got on the internet afterwards, lol.
🌹: HP - triola_petite_singe on October 9th, 2010 06:49 am (UTC)
Hermione is badass-amazing and definitely proved it in DH--she's not just good in school at answering questions and memorizing books, she has so much real-life knowledge and is such a quick thinker and keeps a level head and she just...wins. At everything. I loved seeing her mature into a sensible woman, as well as seeing her love for her friends and her desire to fight evil...man, she is such a BAMF in DH. Love it.
Kali: hp :: nothing hidden in your head_thirty2flavors on October 9th, 2010 04:18 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the number of times Hermione's thinking-on-the-spot saves their asses in DH alone is RIDICULOUS. Her little bigger-on-the-inside bag! Letting the Death Eaters see Harry at the Lovegoods' place but not Ron! Jinxing Harry so he's unrecognizable when the Snatchers catch them! Even things like the flask for Snape's memories and the wreath for the Potters' grave! Hermione you are the greatest.
~caittheepiccek on October 9th, 2010 09:04 am (UTC)
HERMIONEEEEEEEEEEE. bitch is motherfucking awesome.

also. which himym ep is that from? miracles y/y?
Kali: sd :: i love my job_thirty2flavors on October 9th, 2010 04:20 pm (UTC)

lol I have no idea.
Dani: comm // abed/troy // jealousdashafeather on October 9th, 2010 09:38 am (UTC)
lol I didn't even know Abed had had a storyline until I went onto the Community... uh, community here on lj and saw it mentioned. I still don't know what it was. A baby was involved? I need to rewatch it.

FUCK YEAH, HERMIONE AND TOSH. I love those underrated BAMFs!
Kali: comm :: brotp :: haters gonna hate_thirty2flavors on October 9th, 2010 04:22 pm (UTC)
LOL In the background of most of the scenes at Greendale, you see first a pregnant lady, then Abed talking to her and her boyfriend(?), then she goes into labour and he escorts her outside, and then you see him deliver the baby, and then at the end, when Shirley asks him what he's been up to, he says "not much" and behind her you can see the parents and the new baby. I rewatched just to catch it, lol. I noticed the woman and her baby but I didn't realize Abed was involved. Are you friends with fauxkaren? Her lj has an entire list of the subplot scenes.

Oxymoron: xkcd - laptopgirloxymora on October 9th, 2010 12:48 pm (UTC)
In conclusion, Hermione Granger > you.


I didn't like Hermione much for a long time because my first impression of her in PS was that she was the kind of girl that people confused me with and that I hated because of that -- bookish, well-behaved, obsessed with school, boring. Someone who's better than anyone else not because she's particularly smart but because she spends all her time in the library. It took me years to realize that Harry's first impression of Hermione had completely dominated my impression of Hermione. And there's really no excuse for that, because when you look at the last chapters of PS (hexing Neville, Snape's riddle, your quote), it's obvious that Hermione is a major BAMF. In hindsight, I think it says a lot about my own misogyny -- "strong" female characters, for me, were defined by being boyish, and Hermione is very much a girl. Today, I think that's actually one of JKR's great accomplishments, because there are not many girly girl BAMFs out there in YA literature.
Liz: HP: kinky!Hermionebazcat89 on October 9th, 2010 01:57 pm (UTC)
In hindsight, I think it says a lot about my own misogyny -- "strong" female characters, for me, were defined by being boyish, and Hermione is very much a girl.
Yes this line so so much. I was so used to my female heroines rejecting ~girliness~ and choosing instead to do boyish things in order to prove their strength that Hermione kept throwing me off. God JK Rowling you brilliant woman.
(no subject) - _thirty2flavors on October 9th, 2010 04:26 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Opal: Shartopusshinyopals on October 9th, 2010 01:20 pm (UTC)
Poor Tosh, being stuck working with everyone else in Torchwood. HOW MUCH DID THAT SUCK FOR HER?

*Pets Hermione too*

I think they need to get together and discuss the suckiness of people who are too lazy and incompetent to save the world by themselves.
Kali: dw :: team tardis :: the girls_thirty2flavors on October 9th, 2010 04:28 pm (UTC)
LOL SHARKTOPUS ICON. I saw some of those and was going to send them to you.

lol on Teaspoon once I saw some year-that-wasn't fic and the summary was like TOSH IS THE ONLY MEMBER OF TORCHWOOD STILL ALIVE and I was like 'lol so true'.

They should definitely form an underappreciated bamf club. With Martha.
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Kali_thirty2flavors on October 12th, 2010 01:13 am (UTC)
YES I noticed that on my reread! So great. JKR's ability to keep things straight and foreshadow things ages in advance and weave all these hints in before we even know we ought to be looking for hints is amazing. Her plotting skills are crazy.
Kellysweetcherrytree on October 12th, 2010 12:08 am (UTC)
lol i went home this weekend and meant to wake up early on sunday so i could study for midterms...and instead i stayed up until 6.30 re-reading Deathly Hallows.


and IA, Hermione was definitely bamf in it. and the way you describe the trio in this post reminded me of AVPM.

that's all i gotta say.
Kali: hp :: a short bespectacled boy_thirty2flavors on October 12th, 2010 01:14 am (UTC)
lol i went home this weekend and meant to wake up early on sunday so i could study for midterms...and instead i stayed up until 6.30 re-reading Deathly Hallows.


and I forgot how much I loved them, too. And I'd only ever read DH the once so it was nice to reread. D'awwww.

Hermione is the best.