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Blinded by a crazy clown,
Shiva-taught: the new
Snake Queen hears everything.

(This makes more sense if you've read the issues narrating Tim's training with Shiva.)

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razorsmile
Sep. 12th, 2006 06:15 pm (UTC)
Keep trying; at this rate, you'll be down to one-letter drabbles before you know it :D
__marcelo
Sep. 12th, 2006 06:25 pm (UTC)
*g* I have a nagging suspicion that it should be possible using either Chinese ideograms or visual, highly-synthetic artificial languages (where I could use a single glyph to represent the concept of, say, "character-POV time is fixed at a single moment while context/universe-POV flows").

Although if I had a language like that to play with, I might not dedicate that much time to fandom (who am I kidding? I'd be sleeping less, that's all)
katarik
Sep. 13th, 2006 02:54 pm (UTC)
It took me an embarrassingly long time for me to get this, but once I did... ooooooooooooooooh, *Babs*.

Why have I never seen a Shiva-trained Babs before? She'd be as terrifying as Tim.
__marcelo
Sep. 14th, 2006 12:09 am (UTC)
Word. The world needs more Shiva-trained!Babs. And possibly Shiva/Babs, scary as the idea looks.
katarik
Sep. 14th, 2006 03:06 am (UTC)
I still ship Shiva/Dinah to an alarming degree. They could bond over Dinah?
__marcelo
Sep. 14th, 2006 02:05 pm (UTC)
*tries to reel his mind from where it went, not all that successfully*
katarik
Sep. 14th, 2006 03:24 pm (UTC)
Share!
__marcelo
Sep. 14th, 2006 10:18 pm (UTC)
The first thing that came to mind was Shiva and Babs talking over a bound Dinah, discussing what to do with her.

Then my brain said: hey, training. I don't think you can have potentially Shiva-level skills without significant smarts, so what if Babs and Shiva decide that Dinah has to be better trained, and both decide to give her their fullest.

There would have to be threeway sex-as-training and training-as-sex, of *course*, but I'm kind of irked with my brain because sex was the second thing it thought to do with Dinah, Babs, Shiva and a full set of restraints... *bad brain* *bad brain*

katarik
Sep. 15th, 2006 09:54 pm (UTC)
Dinah trained by Babs *and* Shiva.

Holy crap.

Watch out, villains, the Black Canary will mess you *up*.

P.S. Yes, yes there would have to be threeway sex. Mmmmmmmmm.
cosmicastaway
Sep. 14th, 2006 06:14 am (UTC)
This is cool. I had to think about it for a second, but then the whole scene unfolds on it's own with as few words as possible.

Clever clever.
__marcelo
Sep. 14th, 2006 02:23 pm (UTC)
:D Thanks! Come to think of it, I believe space-constrained forms like haikus could be used to do things in fandom that they can't do in other genres, as all the shared background makes allusion very powerful (hmm, this is probably true of all such "derivative" genres; I assume somebody has already written about the similarities and differences between fannish meta analysis and more classical schools of literary analysis, like Homeric or Shakesparean scholarship - there's probably an statistically significant overlap between academia and fannish meta-producing population, for some vague definitions of both terms).
cosmicastaway
Sep. 14th, 2006 06:53 pm (UTC)
Oh God, that looks like theory.

*crawls under desk to fetal position to rock and mewl anxiously*

I'm in English and big words frighten me. I understand the point though, and it's likely been done since I know I've tackled critical comparisions of different literarary forms. I like to argue in class about how comic books are also a type of literature and how it must be analysed differently, and how it surpasses (and fails) in some ways of driving a point home.

Small poems like this, though, are really interesting in how they work. You only have limited words to use (the haiku especially has a rule about syllables used, lest the poem not count as a haiku) and the author must choose carefully how to arrange the words.

The result is a lack of things said, but it is in the silence where the reader fills in the blanks. This leads the reader to discover what is said, and the meaning (being discovered by the reader, not told by the author) has added impact, like a punch in the face from out of nowhere--forgive my similes (^___^;;).

I think the art and advantage to this is that the reader, in supplying their own meaning, will walk away feeling as if it is more than had the meaning been blatently apparent. These poems are interactive. And when you only imply and the reader must fill in the background, each discovery by the reader will be unique to just that reader and thus, more personal.

Am I making sense? (As much as I fret about how annoying theory is, I have my own opinions and I get easily excited trying to explain them in informal writing. Ask me to do an essay on this and you'll find me under the desk again...)
__marcelo
Sep. 16th, 2006 07:51 pm (UTC)
The result is a lack of things said, but it is in the silence where the reader fills in the blanks. This leads the reader to discover what is said, and the meaning (being discovered by the reader, not told by the author) has added impact, like a punch in the face from out of nowhere--forgive my similes (^___^;;).

I like very much that image. I think fandom works have the advantage of a narrower shared common base (or at least, a narrower preferred shared common base), so things like alleys, pearls, circuses (in Bat-fandom) have richer or at least more controllable meanings than in other genres. The reader still has to fill in most of the meaning, but the writer has a... I'm not sure I'd call it a *better* set of colors to offer, but it's one with certain very cool pre-mixed ones, I guess.

cosmicastaway
Sep. 16th, 2006 10:31 pm (UTC)
You just had to mention pearls.

Definately pearls. I know from listening to "Tears of Pearls" by Savage Garden that the song is now forever associated to Bruce's past. It's a bad thing in a way because now I can't listen to the music without the added meaning.

I squirm when I see crowbars. Nobody else does unless they actually understand the reference. It's always magic when writing, because you can describe a room and if Jason's in it and you just vaguely describe the rusted crowbar lying on the floor in the very back of the scene, alarm bells go off for the fans. It's an empty description for anyone who isn't aware of Jason's history.

It's fun when you're a fan of a fandom writing for fans. There are tricks you can employ. I do that with slash sometimes, so that fans who want to ship the two boys in the story, they'll see the underlying intentions. Anybody who would be offended by such a pairing may not even notice it's there because it's not stated. Only hinted at in subtle ways.

Goed, fanfiction is fun.
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