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26th-May-2009 04:41 pm
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This is what about 30 pounds of Sunchokes looks like.



To be safe -- meaning to get my household through the winter -- i think i need about 30 pounds per person.   In addition to about 200# of potatoes.   More? Less?  i'm not sure.      Last year i pulled in the 200# of potatoes pretty easily.      So, i've demonstrated to myself that I can do that, and am well on my way to sufficient Sunchokes.      Still way low in understanding other stuff like parsnips, sweet potatoes, carrots, etc.    This is a long, slow learning process.  

I met one of those 'rewilders' at my permaculture class.   this was bizarre to me: permaculture is the direct opposite of primitivism.   Growing sunchokes takes time, direct alteration of my 'natural' environment.    But i dig them cuz they are a perennial tuber, that just spreads well and feeds plenty of people.     The dude in my class thinks he can live off the wild.   Having been there, done that professionally, I know he'd be hungry mighty quick, and would be eyeing my sunchoke stands with drool on his face within a short span of time.  :) 

Anyhow:  i've cut way back on production this year cuz of all the irons we have in the fire -- but its nice to see these sunchokes still going strong, regardless.   that's why they're so fantastic -- they don't require much work at all. 



Comments 
26th-May-2009 11:42 pm (UTC)
You had me at perennial tuber.

How would I get my hands on some?
27th-May-2009 12:04 am (UTC)
i got these from a seed company in maine:
http://www.fedcoseeds.com/moose.htm

just bought a few, two years ago, that i've been fostering since then. Each season they've been split, i've stashed some at neighbors places and out in a local forest... i figure in 3 years that 5# bag is hosting 100# of growth now. Its really done well.

It was a staple in these parts for over 200 years, for good reason. definitely worth it!
27th-May-2009 12:51 am (UTC)
Is the foliage edible too, or just the tubers? Do you harvest before they flower? What happens if you don't harvest, do they lose nutritional value and flavor like horseradish if you leave them in the ground too long?
27th-May-2009 12:57 am (UTC)
just the tubers. they flower and die back, just like all the tubers -- potatoes, garlic bulbs, all the same. after they begin to send energy downward, the tubers gain strength (its a sun thing!) :)

they get sweeter as the winter progresses, just like parsnips, and are best in late winter after some freezes.

28th-May-2009 03:55 am (UTC)
It sounds like both you and that "rewilder" labor under the common assumption that rewilding has much at all to do with technology. Actually I think permaculture would be a fabulous tool for people to use to go feral because it would give us something to gather to go along with something to hunt. It being permaculture it could be left behind by a nomadic group and still be there producing food when they or another group came back later.

In contemplating this I think it would be a useful intermediate step in between the collapse of industrial agriculture--any monocrop agriculture, really--and straight-up hunting and gathering.

You're right that one guy's not likely to live off the land by himself for very long (those who manage it usually cheat by importing tools and the like, as with "mountain men"), but a group of people could if they knew what they were doing. Which is nothing to scoff at; we know of plenty of hunter-gatherer tribes, but we're not so aware of forager individuals who survived to pass on a culture.
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