Graham ([info]tao_) wrote,
@ 2007-06-27 10:00:00
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A new business model
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[info]savantesque
2007-06-28 09:48 am UTC (link)
It's a lovely idea... and as soon as artists have an affordable way of getting their music heard widely (first person to say MySpace gets slapped) that's how it will be.

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(Anonymous)
2007-06-28 10:40 am UTC (link)
But what about production, recording, experience, professionalism? What about things like Motown & the funk brothers & all the benefits of doing stuff on a larger scale?

And uhm, don't kill me now, but what about selection? Who'll be able to make enough money by sorting the good stuff from the bad? Because anyone who's ever been on youtube knows some kind of pre-selection is nice.

And who does all the business stuff so the musicians can focus on the music? I wouldn't like music to become one of these professions where after a while the next step up is management

Not trying to shoot it down, just wondering about the details

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[info]michaelcl
2007-06-28 10:41 am UTC (link)
But what about production, recording, experience, professionalism? What about things like Motown & the funk brothers & all the benefits of doing stuff on a larger scale?

And uhm, don't kill me now, but what about selection? Who'll be able to make enough money by sorting the good stuff from the bad? Because anyone who's ever been on youtube knows some kind of pre-selection is nice.

And who does all the business stuff so the musicians can focus on the music? I wouldn't like music to become one of these professions where after a while the next step up is management

Not trying to shoot it down, just wondering about the details

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(Anonymous)
2007-06-28 12:30 pm UTC (link)
Who'll be able to make enough money by sorting the good stuff from the bad?

That's a good question, and I don't know the answer - but it's already the case that the major record labels aren't performing this function. (Some of the better indie labels perhaps are; whether they're able to earn 'enough' money doing it is another question.)

Interesting that you bring up Motown and the Funk Brothers - a perfect example of how supremely talented musicians too often receive a pitiful, derisory share of the wealth generated by their music.

I don't know what the future of the music industry is - but I hope it will look substantially different from its recent past. And there's a long tradition of musicians 'passing the hat round' while they play...

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[info]reincheque
2007-06-29 12:07 am UTC (link)
Yes, it would be lovely if artists were paid when their material was downloaded. Unfortunately, there is an expectation that artists have to make their material (even in part) free to download, otherwise no-one is going to be interested. So long as that mindset exists, then it's going to be very difficult for musicians to make money over the net.

Anyone who knows anything about music knows that the production end of things is really quite cheap now. It's all the peripheral bollocks (video, promotion, plugging) that costs a lot of money and that done with no guarantee of getting value for that money. It's also a well-known fact that there is a very nice living to be made from the "support" side of the industry (e.g. photography, poster printing etc.). If you've got something worthwhile that can be withheld pending payment, then you're pretty sure of getting paid.

Yeah, quality control is very important and music on the net is sadly lacking in that, but don't forget that the industry isn't exactly on the ball in that regard - for every Divine Comedy and Radiohead there's a Renee and Renato and Mr Blobby.

OK, rant over. Nighty nite...


djp

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seems like a plan,
(Anonymous)
2007-06-29 01:24 pm UTC (link)
especially since a new blow to legal music buying is about to be announced...

'It is with great regret that we announce the closure of Fopp.

Our store chain is profitable, well regarded and loved by our loyal customers and staff. However we have failed to gain the necessary support from major stakeholders, suppliers and their credit insurers to generate sufficient working capital to run our expanding business.

We would like to thank staff and customers for their support over the past 25 years'

ENDS

A fopp spokesperson


*****PLEASE NOTE*****

PRESS COUNSEL HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT TO MAKE AND AS IT STANDS ARE NO LONGER IN COMMUNICATION WITH FOPP



*depressed* I loved Fopp. :(

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seems like a plan,
(Anonymous)
2007-06-29 01:25 pm UTC (link)
especially since a new blow to legal music buying is about to be announced...

'It is with great regret that we announce the closure of Fopp.

Our store chain is profitable, well regarded and loved by our loyal customers and staff. However we have failed to gain the necessary support from major stakeholders, suppliers and their credit insurers to generate sufficient working capital to run our expanding business.

We would like to thank staff and customers for their support over the past 25 years'

ENDS

A fopp spokesperson


*****PLEASE NOTE*****

PRESS COUNSEL HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT TO MAKE AND AS IT STANDS ARE NO LONGER IN COMMUNICATION WITH FOPP



*depressed* I loved Fopp. :(

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