Stellaluna ([info]stellaluna_) wrote,
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Fic: "Dashboard Confessional" [Flack/Gavin]
Title: Dashboard Confessional
Author: [info]stellaluna_
Fandom: CSI:NY
Rating: NC-17 for explicit sex and language
Summary: Trust and truth and the spaces in between. Flack/Gavin. No spoilers; this is set prior to the show, back in Flack's beat cop training days.
Disclaimer: None of these are mine. Characters are the property of Anthony Zuiker, Jerry Bruckheimer Television, CBS, and Alliance Atlantis.
Notes: Written for [info]mentalhygiene, who asked very nicely for Flack/Gavin, for being a great person and a sane fan.



Flack sits in the front seat of the cruiser, tapping his fingers impatiently on the dashboard and half-listening to the scanner. He can see Gavin standing at the counter inside the Dunkin' Donuts, talking to the girl behind the counter as she fixes two cups of coffee for him. Gavin is smiling and seems perfectly relaxed, Flack can see even from here, and he wonders how Gavin can do that, how he can be so goddamned calm in the face of...of everything.

It's been three days since Flack sucked him off in the backseat of the cruiser, and not only has Gavin not said a word about it, he's not treating him any differently than he did before it happened. Flack has two possible hypotheses about why this is so: one, Gavin is waiting for Flack to bring it up first, which would be the ideal option, even though that's a hell of a lot of pressure on him; two, Gavin has decided to act as if it didn't happen, either because it didn't mean anything and has already slipped his mind, or because he's ashamed and disgusted, and doesn't want to give Flack the impression that a repeat performance would be in any way welcomed.

Okay, now that Flack is thinking about it, that's actually three options. While he's hoping it's choice number one, he's afraid that gonna turn out to be two or three, and he's not sure whether indifference or disgust would be worse. But if Gavin really felt sick over what they'd done (okay, over what Flack had done for him), would he really still be touching Flack all the time the same way he's always done? The little pats on the shoulder or the knee, whether for reassurance or praise, haven't stopped. Nor has the lingering hand on the arm whenever Gavin has a point to make and wants to be sure Flack is really listening to him. So there's that.

Christ, Flack thinks, what a fucking pussy he's turning into. This overanalyzing shit is for the detectives, not for beat cops like him.

The door of the Dunkin' Donuts swings open, and Gavin comes out with their mid-shift dinner. Flack clears his throat and sits up straight, and tries to paste an unconcerned expression on his face, tries to look like he hasn't just spent the last five minutes trying to puzzle out Gavin's recent behavior.

"Okay," Gavin says as he swings into the driver's seat. "I gotta regular coffee for you and a Boston creme doughnut, and a black coffee for me and a cruller. And Linda threw in some'a them little doughnut hole things for free, just 'cause she says we work so hard and I'm always so sweet to her." He grins and hands Flack the coffee cup and doughnut. "Here ya go, kid."

"Thanks," Flack says, not quite looking at him. He's looking down the street, he tells himself, keeping an eye on the three teenagers standing at the corner. "How much do I owe you?"

Even though he doesn't turn his head, he can see Gavin turn to him in surprise. "How much?" Gavin repeats. "You don't owe me nothin', Donny, you should know that by now."

"I shouldn't be lettin' you pick up the tab."

"So tomorrow, when it's your turn to buy, you can be the big spender," Gavin says. "Just like we always do, you know that."

"Yeah, okay," Flack says after a pause, and takes a sip of his coffee.

Gavin sets his coffee down in the cup holder and pulls into traffic. Flack keeps an eye out for the pack of teenagers as they pass by, but they're gone now, disappeared into a store or into one of the apartment buildings lining the street, or simply turned up another block. Either way, not their problem right now, not unless they get a call on the radio. And so far it's been a quiet night.

"Anything pop on the scanner while I was in the store?" Gavin asks when they're stopped at the light.

"Naw. Domestic dispute off the Parkway, but someone else grabbed it. That's all." Flack looks over at him, finally; Gavin is eating his doughnut and driving with one hand on the wheel. "I think I woulda said somethin' if there was anything goin' on, ya know?"

"I didn't say you wouldn't," Gavin says calmly.

"No, but you go askin' me about what was happening on the radio like there was maybe something I was leavin' out, so you must think I don't know enough to tell you if anything's goin' on. I think I know that by now." Even as he says the words, Flack is trying to will himself to keep his stupid mouth shut, but it doesn't seem to be working, and here he is picking a fight over some inconsequential thing.

"I was just askin', Donny," Gavin says, and Flack snorts and sinks lower in his seat. Gavin doesn't say a word, but at the next light he reaches out and, without warning, slaps Flack in the back of the head, hard enough to displace his hat.

"Ow, hey," Flack exclaims, and grabs for the hat. "What the fuck is your problem?"

"What the fuck is your problem?" Gavin asks. "If you wanna sit over there and sulk about God knows what, you go right ahead, but if you got a problem with me, you tell me, Donny. Long as we're ridin' the same squad car, that's the way it works."

"I don't have a problem, okay?"

"No, not okay. Not okay at all." Gavin shakes his head. "You been in a bad mood all night, and I want to know what the shit's eatin' you."

"Well, not you, that's for goddamn sure." Just like earlier, the words are out of his mouth before he can stop them, and he feels like pounding his fist into the window out of sheer frustration.

There's silence in the car for a few seconds, and then Gavin says, "Oh, so that's how it is," in a low voice.

"Yeah, that's how it is," Flack says. "I'm not stupid, you know. You don't bring something up, I notice shit like that."

"I was just waitin' on you, Donny."

Flack sits up straight again. "Just waitin' on me?" he asks. "For what? So you wouldn't have to bring up the uncomfortable subject? So's you could avoid the issue?"

"Will you ease up already?" Gavin says. "Jesus Christ." He pulls over into a parking space, and then turns to face Flack. "Look," he says, voice rising with irritation, "I waited for you to bring it up because I didn't know how you were feelin' about it. All right?"

He blinks at Gavin in surprise. This is what he was hoping to hear, more or less, and now that he's faced with it, he doesn't know what to do. Only now does he realize how little hope he was holding out for option number one, how much he was bracing himself to hear something else entirely. And he never expected for a second that Gavin might have any uncertainties about his reaction; he remembers his eagerness that night, how he shoved Gavin back against the seat and then went to town, Gavin's hands tugging gently at his hair and his soft curses as Flack ran his tongue over the head of his cock.

"Well, I, you know," he says. "I feel fine about it. Wasn't sure how you were feelin', that's all."

Gavin shrugs and looks away from him, and picks up his coffee again. "I felt fine about it. I just didn't know if you felt like...like I'd coerced you or anythin'. Since I'm your training officer and all."

"Coerced?" Flack has to laugh out loud. "Gav, if you remember, it was kinda my idea in the first place." (I got a smart mouth, he'd said to Gavin. A real smart mouth. Wanna see? This, after all the months of semi-flirtation and touches that were starting to linger a little too long to just be friendly, and Flack was pretty sure he was reading the signs right, but on the other hand, Gavin was police, just like him. And maybe, after all, he was the only guy in uniform who thought about shit like this. That was what he was thinking right up until he put a hand on Gavin's crotch and felt how hard he was, and Gavin kinda groaned and pushed up into his palm.)

"Yeah," Gavin says, and coughs. "I seem to recall something like that."

"Okay, then," Flack says.

"Kid, look," Gavin says, and it's his confiding voice now, the one he gets when he's about to tell Flack something that's really important. "You're my partner, all right? My real, honest-to-God partner. I ever do anything you don't like, you tell me, you got it? Don't let it fester."

"I will," Flack says seriously, and looks into Gavin's face. "You too, got it?"

"Kid, trust me, I ain't shy about telling you when you fuck up." Gavin grins at him, and Flack has to laugh.

"Yeah, okay," he says. "So, uh, we good?"

"Of course we're good, Donny." Gavin reaches for the doughnut bag and holds it out to him. "Here, have some."

They sit and eat and sip their coffee for awhile, Flack finally starting to feel calm, and then Gavin looks at his watch and points out that it's time they got back on patrol.

Two blocks further up, while they're stopped at a light, Flack decides to go for broke. "Come back to my place," he blurts out. "After shift, I mean."

There's another pause, long enough to make Flack feel sick to his stomach, and then Gavin says, "I could do that." He glances over across the front seat, and Flack is surprised to see the anxiety in his face. "Only if you're sure, though, that is."

"I'm sure," Flack says, and he's pleased to note that he sounds a lot more confident than he feels.

"Then that's what we'll do," Gavin says, and smiles, and for the first time in three days Flack feels like he's back on level ground.

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Flack leans toward Gavin in the dark living room. Gavin's arms are around him, holding him close, and Flack is looking into his face, uncertain of what his next move should be.

Actually, he knows what it should be; he's just reluctant to act on it, because it's making him nervous as hell. Sometime in the last few minutes it occurred to him that, even though he'd sucked Gavin off the other night, nice as you please, he hadn't ever kissed him. They had never kissed each other. And even though he's kissed plenty of girls over the years, he's never exactly had an urge to kiss any of the guys whose cocks he's sucked. He's gone down on guys and had them return the favor, and fucked them up against walls and in the back rooms of dive bars, but it's never involved kissing. Kissing is something he saves for people he likes, or at least people who seem to expect it.

He doesn't know if Gavin expects it or not, but Christ, he certainly likes him; that's not even a question. What is a question, and this brings him back to his earlier annoyance at himself for being such a motherfucking little bitch whiner, is how he's supposed to go about doing that. Because maybe it's different, and maybe he's not such a great kisser. He fucks this up, and he's gonna feel green in front of Gavin all over again, and he doesn't want to let him down.

Yep, he thinks grimly, as he nudges his hips against Gavin's: he's a fucking wimp, that's all there is to it.

Determined that this isn't going to be the case for any longer than it absolutely has to be, he decides to take the bull by the horns. He cups his hand around Gavin's cheek, and tells himself that he can do this. Ain't no thing, and it's not like he's never kissed anyone before, not like he doesn't know how to do it. And Gavin is the last person in the world who would ever laugh at him if he fumbles. He slides his thumb over Gavin's jaw, stubble against skin, and instead of leaning in for the kiss that he's been psyching himself up for, he chickens at the last minute, and rubs his thumb over Gavin's lips instead. Tracing their shape and watching how Gavin's eyes get just a little wider, not so's anyone but him would ever notice, but there, and his mouth opens a little. Not like he planned it, Flack thinks. Just like it happened on its own.

Noticing that gives him the last little bit of courage he's been looking for, and he leans all the way in and presses his mouth against Gavin's, and it's just that easy after all. Gavin's lips move against his and his mouth opens all the way, and Flack slips his tongue inside. They kiss and it's good, and Gavin's hands move over him, and they're still kissing as he backs Gavin over to the couch and they sink down onto it.

He's on top of Gavin, still kissing him, and touching everywhere he can reach, while Gavin returns the kisses and mumbles soft curses as he caresses Flack's shoulders and back and ass. And even though Flack's always been good about maintaining control with everyone else he's ever slept with, something about this, something about Gavin and the way they still have their uniforms on, and how Gavin smiles at him in between kisses and pushes his hips into Flack's, letting their erections nudge against each other. It makes Flack groan and makes him incoherent when he tries to say something.

Stuttering his lust against Gavin's open mouth, and the stuttering just pisses him off the way the case of pussy nerves does, so he swallows hard and bites back a curse and silently orders himself to stop talking if he can't form words like a human, and reaches up, instead, and strokes Gavin's hair back from his forehead. Gavin draws in a sharp, quick breath at the touch of Flack's fingers, and Flack stares up at him in surprise. He did that, he realizes, made Gavin breathe like that just by touching his hair, and he wonders what else he can make him do, and how he can make him do it.

If Gavin gasped when he touched his hair, he outright moans when Flack unzips his uniform pants and slides a hand inside, and starts to rub his dick in slow strokes. Flack slicks his thumb over the head and Gavin whispers, "Jesus Christ," and then, "Move a little, Donny."

"What -- "

Gavin pushes him onto his side so that they're facing each other on the narrow couch, and then Flack feels him tugging at his zipper; a moment later it's his turn to moan when Gavin's hand wraps around his cock. "Don't stop," Gavin mutters, and they lie there like that, kissing while they jerk each other off. Flack moves his tongue lazily over Gavin's and in and out of his mouth, Gavin's free arm around him, holding him while he touches him. It's all nice and slow and at first Flack's in no hurry to finish it off, and then Gavin's hand slips lower and tugs at his balls before moving back up the shaft. After that it's pretty much the point of no return, and Flack is fucking Gavin's hand hard by the time they both come, within seconds of each other, gasping into each other's mouths.

They both sort of collapse, and it's silent in the apartment for awhile except for the sound of their breathing. Flack absently wipes his hand off on the arm of the couch, and then leans back into Gavin. "Hey," Gavin says eventually, and kisses him again, soft this time. Flack kisses him back.

"Hey," he says.

"That was...that was good," Gavin says. "You got a talent for this."

Flack smirks. "Yeah, you bet I do," he says. "Shoulda known that."

Gavin looks at him. "We still good here?" he asks, voice gone serious, and Flack nods without so much as a pause.

"We're good," he says, and he knows it's true. He kisses Gavin.

"Good." Gavin stretches as best he can without actually moving away from Flack, and then they're quiet again for another little while, until something occurs to Flack, something he's maybe been sort of vaguely wondering since Gavin accepted his invitation to come over.

"Hey, so you do this with all'a your rookies?" he asks.

"What, this?" Gavin says.

"Yeah, of course this."

"Nope." Gavin yawns. "Just you, kid. You're the first."

"Oh, yeah?" Flack says. He grins. "That's really somethin'."

"Yeah, it's somethin' all right."

"How come?"

"How come what? How come just you? Probably 'cause you're the first one who's ever felt like a real partner. Now shut up and lemme sleep. I got twenty minutes or so before I need to leave." He closes his eyes.

"No problem, Gav." Flack glances at his watch, then leans back himself and closes his eyes. Twenty minutes, he thinks. Just time enough for a decent nap. He settles himself more comfortably against Gavin, and smiles when Gavin wraps an arm around him.

They're good, he thinks just before he dozes off. They're very definitely good here.



Feedback is very much appreciated.



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[info]mentalhygiene
2005-11-06 04:52 am UTC (link)
I... I....

holy fuck. You are *way* too good to me. This is *hot*.

I think one of my favorite images, for its ease ... and.. the sense -- okay, the whole thing in the car, the Dunkin's, for the sense of realism, but the moment of Gavin driving with one hand and eating donut with the other is an act of damn *perfection*, I tell you.

And the pr0n is fucking amazing. And ... the whole way they talk, it's them, and angry and tender and fierce-with-the-world.

*flail*. So good.

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[info]stellaluna_
2005-11-06 05:05 am UTC (link)
Oh...yay! I'm so glad you liked it. I was all nervous, because...you know. It's Flack/Gavin. This pairing is your baby.

Heh. The bit with the driving and the donut is one of those moments where, when I was writing it, I could *see* him -- both of them -- really clearly. And Gavin has perfected the art of multitasking.

Also really really glad that the pr0n and the dialogue worked, because those were my two biggest worries. With them, it's...even when they're tender, with this pairing especially, I like to keep in mind that they're still *guys*. They don't do cutesy or schmoopy.

...Dude. *blink* I made you flail! Go *me*.

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[info]mentalhygiene
2005-11-06 05:17 am UTC (link)
Oh...yay! I'm so glad you liked it. I was all nervous, because...you know. It's Flack/Gavin. This pairing is your baby.

I *love* it. :) You're a fantastic babysitter.

The bit with the driving and the donut is one of those moments where, when I was writing it, I could *see* him -- both of them -- really clearly. And Gavin has perfected the art of multitasking.

There's something that's so perfectly *cop* about it, and it works so well, because both of them are so much that intrinsic cop-ness. It's casual and ... it's real. It works.

And leave it to Flack to start a fight when he's upset. Again.

Also really really glad that the pr0n and the dialogue worked, because those were my two biggest worries. With them, it's...even when they're tender, with this pairing especially, I like to keep in mind that they're still *guys*. They don't do cutesy or schmoopy.

You do it very well. Their tenderness is a roughness and a ferocity. While Flack, say, is still all bluff and bluster, he's being that way because he's made vulnerable by it, and Gavin's reactions are spot-on, too. It follows well their conversation in the car-- they sort of unknot themselves and then relax into each other. It's damn hot and works.

I made you flail! Go *me*.

I'm still flailing. You wrote pr0n! For me! Flack/Gavin pr0n! *heart*

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[info]stellaluna_
2005-11-06 05:46 am UTC (link)
I *love* it. :) You're a fantastic babysitter.

*preen* Yay! Thank you. I swear, the Babysitters Club never had to put up with anything like this.



And leave it to Flack to start a fight when he's upset. Again.

Of course. There's something about that, too, that feels very intrinsically cop to me: react to hurt or worry by getting mad and picking a huge fight. That *does* seem to be one of his default reactions.

Their tenderness is a roughness and a ferocity. While Flack, say, is still all bluff and bluster, he's being that way because he's made vulnerable by it, and Gavin's reactions are spot-on, too. It follows well their conversation in the car-- they sort of unknot themselves and then relax into each other. It's damn hot and works.

*nod* That's what I was hoping for: that the vulnerability and the mutual caring would come through the bluster and swearing and posturing. They work themselves into these knots because all of this *does* mean something, to both of them, and then they react in their usual ways, but once they're able to be honest about what they want, they're able to sort of fall back into each other's rhythms. They *know* each other.

I'm still flailing. You wrote pr0n! For me! Flack/Gavin pr0n! *heart*

Well, you deserve it. You asked so hopefully. And, as I said, you're blessedly *sane*. Good people deserve fic. *nod*

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[info]mentalhygiene
2005-11-06 06:06 am UTC (link)
I swear, the Babysitters Club never had to put up with anything like this.

If my stories are my children, someone's gonna end up calling the DSS on my ass. ;-)


There's something about that, too, that feels very intrinsically cop to me: react to hurt or worry by getting mad and picking a huge fight. That *does* seem to be one of his default reactions.

That too-- it's very much the machismo, the cop, it's how they let each other know that they give a damn. They care enough to fight, and fight hard. (which is, you're right, one of Flack's default reactions-- like you pointed out in Officer Blue, how intense he gets and how much he seems to need to see Mac as angry as he is). It reminds me of that Calvin and Hobbes cartoon where Calvin is stomping around declaring that he hates everyone and then thinks, still alone, "no one understands my pleas for affection".

They work themselves into these knots because all of this *does* mean something, to both of them, and then they react in their usual ways, but once they're able to be honest about what they want, they're able to sort of fall back into each other's rhythms. They *know* each other.

Right-- like the change, or the threat, threatens to make it seem like they really don't know and trust each other. So they get defensive. And fight. But they come through it still *knowing*. They probably do the same thing off-screen after "The Fall". (and in a way, they already are falling back to each other as they get in the car.)

Well, you deserve it. You asked so hopefully. And, as I said, you're blessedly *sane*. Good people deserve fic. *nod*

I *like* being sane and good. :)

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[info]stellaluna_
2005-11-06 07:05 am UTC (link)
They care enough to fight, and fight hard. (which is, you're right, one of Flack's default reactions-- like you pointed out in Officer Blue, how intense he gets and how much he seems to need to see Mac as angry as he is). It reminds me of that Calvin and Hobbes cartoon where Calvin is stomping around declaring that he hates everyone and then thinks, still alone, "no one understands my pleas for affection".

I love that cartoon. It's so apt. And that's exactly what it's like. Also, "Officer Blue," yes. How he immediately freaks out *big* time, and seems to have a need to see that reaction in others, too, because why *aren't* you reacting big, Mac? The part about caring enough to fight, and fight hard, also connects to Mac and Stella in that ep, I think: how they go no-holds-barred for the jugular, but are also able, in the end, to apologize and make up.

Right-- like the change, or the threat, threatens to make it seem like they really don't know and trust each other. So they get defensive. And fight. But they come through it still *knowing*. They probably do the same thing off-screen after "The Fall". (and in a way, they already are falling back to each other as they get in the car.)

Oh, I think that's *exactly* what happens after "The Fall." Didn't we talk about this once, how they'd probably beat the bejesus out of each other, then, once they were both bleeding and gasping for breath, have make-up sex and call out for pizza? I can so see them doing that. And, right. Despite all the defensiveness and posturing, and the quickness to anger, they *do* trust each other underneath it all. That seems fundamental to them.

I *like* being sane and good. :)

Cookies and pr0n?

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[info]mentalhygiene
2005-11-07 03:11 am UTC (link)
How he immediately freaks out *big* time, and seems to have a need to see that reaction in others, too, because why *aren't* you reacting big, Mac?

I think also that's something that got stymied in both "The Fall" as well as "On the Job". Thinking about it now, the expressions and the way he... physically acts, how he comes across. His attitude in general comes across the same way. A sense of raw frustration-- he *can't* fight. He's being stopped or redirected somehow. He can't do what he usually would to prove that he cares about his friends (Gavin, and Danny.) And he hates it, I think because it probably makes him feel like he's just pussing out, that he really isn't doing the right thing.

The part about caring enough to fight, and fight hard, also connects to Mac and Stella in that ep, I think: how they go no-holds-barred for the jugular, but are also able, in the end, to apologize and make up.

*nod* And to that end, that partnership and friendship is too important to hate for. It's important to fight, because it makes them recognize it's way, way too important to give up. How the saying goes "you don't know what you've got til you lose it".

Didn't we talk about this once, how they'd probably beat the bejesus out of each other, then, once they were both bleeding and gasping for breath, have make-up sex and call out for pizza? I can so see them doing that.

Hahaha. Yes, exactly, we did discuss that a few times. Lying panting on the floor and: so, Donny, you still like green peppers?

And, right. Despite all the defensiveness and posturing, and the quickness to anger, they *do* trust each other underneath it all. That seems fundamental to them.

I think part of the fighting -- whether it's fighting perps and counting on their partner to back them up, or fighting each other, physically or not, is sort of saying "I trust you with myself". Which in Flack and Gavin's case seems a very physical, bodily trust. With Stella and Mac it's physical safety, but it's also an intellectual kinda... thing. Because Mac lives in his head so much. Yannow?

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[info]stellaluna_
2005-11-07 04:40 am UTC (link)
He can't do what he usually would to prove that he cares about his friends (Gavin, and Danny.) And he hates it, I think because it probably makes him feel like he's just pussing out, that he really isn't doing the right thing.

Right, and I think with Gavin, he also has this sense that not only is he betraying him, but that he's *been* betraying him somehow, all along, because he got promoted up to detective and Gavin never did, and all of a sudden (and for the past few years) he's one of Them instead of one of Us. Which is why, I think, he's so careful in "The Fall" to talk of Mac as, like...a separate entity. To align himself on Gavin's side. And why he's so quick to go shove around the uniforms at the Minhas shooting and tell them to knock it off (though that, again, aligns him with Them).

Lying panting on the floor and: so, Donny, you still like green peppers?

And then Flack answers the door for the delivery guy shirtless, and wearing Gavin's uniform hat.

Which in Flack and Gavin's case seems a very physical, bodily trust. With Stella and Mac it's physical safety, but it's also an intellectual kinda... thing. Because Mac lives in his head so much. Yannow?

*nod* Right. Mac could reel off a dozen intellectual, logical reasons why he trusts Stella as his partner, but he'd have a hard time, I think, getting down to the emotional core of the matter. And it's not expressed through the affectionate little punches and jabs and slaps that Gavin and Flack seem fond of, or through the nicknames. It just *is*.

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[info]mentalhygiene
2005-11-07 07:10 am UTC (link)
Right, and I think with Gavin, he also has this sense that not only is he betraying him, but that he's *been* betraying him somehow, all along, because he got promoted up to detective and Gavin never did, and all of a sudden (and for the past few years) he's one of Them instead of one of Us.

*nod* And it just happens-- a nasty, awful coincidence-- that finally getting to work with him again turns out to be such a disaster. We've talked before about how well the emotions he goes through work in the show-- how *clear* it is, right from the first time you see them on screen together, how affectionate and loyal they are. There's *love* there, brothership. And because Flack's the guy wearing his heart on his sleeve, you see it hurting him to do this to someone he loves. Even if he has to do it. It may feel like some karmic retribution is saying: see? you really are one of Them. Look what you did.

And why he's so quick to go shove around the uniforms at the Minhas shooting and tell them to knock it off (though that, again, aligns him with Them).

He has that fervent, immediate loyalty-- and the need for the other cops not to be betraying someone who Flack has decided, in his status quo, is One of Us. Danny's a cop and no cop betrays another. That is it should be. (And he's as much afraid of being that betrayer again, as you point out, as of cops betraying each other. If he really *did* ever encounter a corrupt cop-- in canon, as opposed to 24HoursVerse-- he'd probably dice the guy and then drink himself into a destructive stupor.)

And then Flack answers the door for the delivery guy shirtless, and wearing Gavin's uniform hat.

And the delivery guy thanks god or whoever's listening that he's wearing *pants* this time.

Mac could reel off a dozen intellectual, logical reasons why he trusts Stella as his partner, but he'd have a hard time, I think, getting down to the emotional core of the matter.

*nod* And also, I think there's that much -- it's a very *dangerous* vulnerability, like their fights make it possible to be more emotionally exposed than, say, Gavin or Flack's. Or in a different way that bears its own set of risks. Gavin and Flack are vastly more apt to talk than Mac will ever be, but the way Stella and Mac fight... it seems to put them on this very tenuous ground, just because of Mac's apparently quasi-instability.

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[info]stellaluna_
2005-11-07 04:36 pm UTC (link)
We've talked before about how well the emotions he goes through work in the show-- how *clear* it is, right from the first time you see them on screen together, how affectionate and loyal they are. There's *love* there, brothership. And because Flack's the guy wearing his heart on his sleeve, you see it hurting him to do this to someone he loves. Even if he has to do it. It may feel like some karmic retribution is saying: see? you really are one of Them. Look what you did.

Exactly. And that all the fears and guilt he's probably felt over the years about moving up the food chain and leaving his old mentor behind are coming back to haunt him. All his worst imaginings about himself are true: he *has* become a suit, he *has* forgotten his roots. And yeah, it's amazingly clear how much they love and respect each other. The body language, especially at the beginning, is just amazingly clear. Talk about Mac and Danny used to mirror each other or lean in -- they've got nothing on Flack and Gavin.

And he's as much afraid of being that betrayer again, as you point out, as of cops betraying each other. If he really *did* ever encounter a corrupt cop-- in canon, as opposed to 24HoursVerse-- he'd probably dice the guy and then drink himself into a destructive stupor.

*nod* He would. Because as bad as it is to see a cop hurt or betrayed, it's going to be that much worse if the guilty party is another cop. Actually, it's sort of like Mac's reaction in "Officer Blue": he's upset about the shooting, but he doesn't *really* go postal until he finds out that the perp is former military, and had a high security clearance. Then it seems to become a personal betrayal.


And the delivery guy thanks god or whoever's listening that he's wearing *pants* this time.

...Oh, *Flack*. I'm sure Gavin was hiding in the kitchen all *facepalm* when he pulled that little stunt. ("And you better have tipped him goddamn well, Donny.")

Gavin and Flack are vastly more apt to talk than Mac will ever be, but the way Stella and Mac fight... it seems to put them on this very tenuous ground, just because of Mac's apparently quasi-instability.

Right, and I think with them, Stella doesn't quite know these days just *how* he's going to react, whether he's going to fight the way she thinks he should, or whether he's just going to shut down and shut her *out* -- again. After all, that's what happened with Danny, right? They fought, Mac closed him out, and things *still* aren't better. She can't know, it seems, if fighting with him is ever going to put her in the same position.

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[info]geekwriter143
2005-11-06 06:59 am UTC (link)
I think I love you. I'm a little incoherent now, but I'll try with the feedback.

I absolutely love Flack being so unsure and being pissed off at himself about being unsure and being afraid to confront things. I love how he wants to be tender but doesn't know how because he's such a guy, and how that makes the tiny little things he does, stroking Gavin's lip and smoothing back his hair, into huge gestures. I love the friendship and comraderie of the piece, how they're equals even if Gavin his his training officer, how important it is to both of them that they're on the same page.

So, yeah, still mostly incoherent, still loving you for this.

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[info]stellaluna_
2005-11-06 03:56 pm UTC (link)
Thank you so much! I'm so happy that you liked this. I honestly had no idea if anybody *would*.

I'm really glad that the way I wrote Flack works, because all of this is what I was trying to show with him: that he's uncertain about all of this, and that feeling that way just makes him angry, and that under his tough exterior he *is* an emotional person. He's just...not going to express that in conventional ways. So that's it, exactly: the little things become much more meaningful. And I liked the sense of equality between Flack and Gavin, too, so really wanted to get it across here. It's important to both of them, the partnership, which is why I think "The Fall" rips them up so badly.

Thank you again for the feedback!

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[info]gin2001
2005-11-06 10:56 am UTC (link)
gheopfjknfds..... gahhhhhhhh

mmmmmmm boys. Doing things that I like them to do. :-) In uniform.

2am and the medicine has worn off, lungs trying to crawl out of my throat. My 1st thought was hmmm. Has it been long enough to take more? And hopefully taking 3 of them at a time won't hurt me. (NyQuil, Hydrocodone and corticosteroids, I feel like a pharmacy) 2nd thought was need something to do while I wait for them to kick in... new stellafic! That certainly makes me happier.

I never before entertained the notion of Flack/Gavin. I know a lot of people do Flack/Danny, but something about them *really* doesn't fit in my mind. (Besides the fact that Danny belongs to Mac) Just started to notice Flack now in S2 since he's lots prettier.

The way you set the story up is like how Mac and Danny SHOULD work but don't. Maybe it's the communication thing? Even though Flack's scared, he gives in and says something. He's willing to move towards... not quite compromise, but point being that he at least makes an effort towards cooperation/something bigger.

There is a give and take there, but I would be interested to see what Flack and Gavin's downfall becomes. I get the sense that this is sorta a "calm before the storm" thing before it all goes to hell for them.

The fumbling, unsure newness appeals to me in this one. Not quite sure how to describe it, but I like it.

Gavin draws in a sharp, quick breath at the touch of Flack's fingers, and Flack stares up at him in surprise. He did that, he realizes, made Gavin breathe like that just by touching his hair, and he wonders what else he can make him do, and how he can make him do it.

For some reason, this part grabbed me the most. Loved it.

I think you've got a great handle on Flack's voice and his thought process, since it's so much different than the boys.

Cookies and pr0n?

I'll send you cookies! Name the type. People pay me to make stuff for them. :-) You definately have earned cookies. Good little fic writer. *pats stella on head* I can't write worth a damn, so cookies it is.

Woah. Medicine working. In a woah dude dizzy way. Maybe I'll get more than 2 hours of sleep at a time this time. I think I covered what I wanted to, but I'll double check later today and see if I did when I'm not battling to stay conscious....

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[info]stellaluna_
2005-11-06 04:18 pm UTC (link)
I think Flack likes the idea of getting it on in the squad car while wearing his uniform just as much as the rest of us do, so that works out rather nicely.

And I'm about 99% sure that [info]mentalhygiene and I are about the only ones who have considered this pairing before, much less written it, so I'm glad it worked. I'll read pretty much any pairing as long as the writing is good enough, although Mac/Danny is still my default setting for this fandom. And that's a good point about how this the way the two of them *should* work, but don't. It's definitely the communication thing: Flack speaks up and says what's on his mind, even if he does so by picking a fight. At least they clear the air.

There is a give and take there, but I would be interested to see what Flack and Gavin's downfall becomes. I get the sense that this is sorta a "calm before the storm" thing before it all goes to hell for them.

I think that, up until everything finally does go to hell in "The Fall," from last season, the two of them pretty much do manage to make everything work for themselves, even though Flack moves up the ranks to detective and even when they maybe haven't seen each other for a little bit.

I like the newness of it here, too, because I like to see people kind of fumbling their way through the processes involved in a new relationship, or a newly-defined relationship, and trying to figure out the boundaries and how this is all going to work, etc. I'm also really glad that Flack's thought process works well; it *is* very different from Mac and Danny, and I always get nervous when I step outside my comfort zones and try to write from a POV I don't normally attempt.

And, heh. Thank you! So glad you liked it. Cookies are good. It's a bit too early for them here yet, although I don't know why I'm *awake* right now, either.

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[info]gin2001
2005-11-06 09:06 pm UTC (link)

I think Flack likes the idea of getting it on in the squad car while wearing his uniform just as much as the rest of us do, so that works out rather nicely.

Heh. Sweeeeettttt.

I'll read pretty much any pairing as long as the writing is good enough, although Mac/Danny is still my default setting for this fandom.

You're better than me-- I'm picky about pairings. And a few rare things, like MPreg. Like I'd never read Danny/Aiden. No way no how. Except if you or someone else I respected in the fandom (which so far is nobody) wrote a different pairing, I'd try it. I do draw my lines at a few other things.

It's definitely the communication thing: Flack speaks up and says what's on his mind, even if he does so by picking a fight. At least they clear the air.

So instead, the air never clears with Mac and Danny, and essentially festers. Interesting considering that defies physics. And, considering how Danny is rather full of hot air at times.. yeah yeah yeah am digressing... ;-) It's one of those metaphors that shows why Mac can't handle the things that aren't governed by the laws of "hard" sciences.

I think that, up until everything finally does go to hell in "The Fall," from last season, the two of them pretty much do manage to make everything work for themselves, even though Flack moves up the ranks to detective and even when they maybe haven't seen each other for a little bit.

So, Gavin and Flack are the functional version... Sorta. Right? Are they just casual or is there a Relationship going on with them in the past? But, I guess that this could be up for interpretation due to a lack of cannon with them. I would think they would have some serious tension with Flack going into Detectivedom, but I could see them having a fight and then working it out a few days later.

I'm also really glad that Flack's thought process works well; it *is* very different from Mac and Danny,

It does. Mac is very slow and methodical, clear diction and complete thoughts. Danny is very mercurial, quick to fly off the handle, and in his haste, almost clumsy, with a slurred diction. Your Flack is completely different from either, a bit self deprecating with little things that are very him like “pussy nerves”, a diction style that is a blend of Mac and Danny, but completely unlike either, and a *mind* that runs on overdrive but a mouth that isn’t automatically wired to it, unlike Danny’s. Ok, so those are probably way too oversimplified, but they work in my head….

Gavin doesn't say a word, but at the next light he reaches out and, without warning, slaps Flack in the back of the head, hard enough to displace his hat.

"Ow, hey," Flack exclaims, and grabs for the hat. "What the fuck is your problem?"

"What the fuck is your problem?" Gavin asks. "If you wanna sit over there and sulk about God knows what, you go right ahead,


Forgot to mention this made me laugh (and cough) last night, and still does. heh.

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[info]tartary_lamb
2005-12-05 10:35 am UTC (link)
I hope you'll forgive the unsubstantial feedback, but I'm new to the fandom and just wanted to flail inarticulately and thank you, thank you, thank you for writing what amounts to my secret CSI: NY OTP. It's glorious.

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[info]stellaluna_
2005-12-05 07:09 pm UTC (link)
Oh, wow! Thank you. I'm always so pleased and surprised to hear from someone who likes the Flack/Gavin pairing (aside from [info]mentalhygiene and me). The kind of partnership bond they demonstrated in "The Fall" really resonates with me. I'm so glad you liked the story.

And your icon is so pretty!

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[info]laguera25
2006-01-02 04:52 am UTC (link)
I'm really late to this party, but I just had to squee over your Flack. He's just so...so Flack and New York cop and smartass kid determined not to be a "pussy". And yet, there's this underlying vulnerability that never veers into schmaltz.

In truth, I envy it, because in trying to write him in a romantic relationship in my own work, I'm never sure how far I can go on the side of vulnerability without distorting him. This may be because I do not possess a pair of testicles to call my own, and thus cannot discern the proper amount of machismo for a given situation.

Whatever the case, your Flack possesses great realism as a guy without descending into the troglodytic tropes of mysogynistic toolery of grossly effeminate behavior, and I can only hope I have similar success with my version of him.

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[info]stellaluna_
2006-01-03 01:11 am UTC (link)
Oh, thank you so much! I'm glad my version of Flack works for you. I haven't written from his POV very frequently, but he's fun to write, particularly for how outspoken and brash he is. I like to try to get at the various aspects of his personality: that he *is* this tough NY kid, this tough, take-no-shit cop, and at the same time there *is* that layer of vulnerability, one that he'd do anything to cover up, along with his sense of caring, but it's there all the same. And it *is* tricky to write someone like Flack in a romantic relationship, or even in any situation where that vulnerability might slip and show itself a little, because it's hard to have that come through and still show him for the tough, no-nonsense guy that he is. I'm really glad he comes off as realistic, though, and I think it's those contradictions in his personality that make him as interesting a person as he is.

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[info]laguera25
2006-01-03 01:29 am UTC (link)
Oh, I fotgot to add that I was hilariously revolted by Flack wiping his hand on the back of the couch. That was the second time I'd read indiscriminate wiping, and agh. What is it with guys and wiping their...evidence on whatever is near to hand? Girls don't.

I hope he had the couch cleaned...

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