Merle ([info]merle_) wrote,
@ 2008-03-27 18:00:00
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Current mood:stunned
Current music:Sheep on Drugs, "Überman"

muy bueno!
Riding home on the bus, someone got on and started talking to the person sitting next to me. I tried to offer her my seat, but she declined. They conversed in Spanish.

And I understood it. Sort of.

Maybe half of it based on contextual clues, probably only a fifth of it from the words. But aside from a few interstitial sentences that made no sense to me, I caught the gist of the conversations. It probably helps that one of the people was interjecting English words now and then, which may imply a non-native speaker, which may imply the use of much simpler words, but it pleased me. The first stage of learning a spoken language is finding enough patterns to discern the meaning. Being able to hold a conversation comes much later.

First one of them described the casual car pool to SF, and that it was free. The other asked why, and the tolls were mentioned (free passage if you are driving a HOV). It doesn't run on Saturday, Sunday, or federal holidays. After a while they started to mock the woman who was eating greasy and noxious smelling chicken (I mostly caught the mood and "pollo" here, alas). Then they passed a local Mexican place and said it was muy bueno, fresca, and one of them said something about a scallop dish there, which was good but expensive.

Most excellent! If Bush declares martial law, I will at least have a vague chance of understanding people across the border. (I assume Canada will build large walls to keep us out) I may not be able to speak well enough to do more than order food, but that will keep me going long enough for a crash course in the language. In any case: yeah!



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[info]lexica510
2008-03-31 04:28 am UTC (link)
Neat.

Note to self: Put the Pimsleur Spanish lessons on the MP3 player as well as all the Buddhist podcasts you've got there already.

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[info]merle_
2008-03-31 04:39 pm UTC (link)
I'd been thinking of playing some Spanish lessons in the background while I work, but worry that it would either confuse my work or cause bizarre associations between Spanish words and sections of source code. If I get a job in SF, though, I'll definitely want something for the commute, and language sounds like a good plan.

(Cantonese would be another obvious language choice, albeit far more difficult. If global warming continues, Canadian would be even more useful, but I can already speak that, eh?)

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[info]lexica510
2008-03-31 05:55 pm UTC (link)
My only concern, really, is that Pimsleur is the original "listen-then-repeat" style of instruction. The "listen" part is no problem, but if I'm on the bus, the "repeat" part might be a bit problematic. Guess I'll have to practice under my breath.

OTOH, as my favorite Buddhist teacher said to a caller during one of the weekly podcasts, "You live in a city — if you walk down the sidewalk talking to yourself, nobody will even notice!"

If global warming continues, Canadian would be even more useful, but I can already speak that, eh?

Well, you know "please", "thank you", and "you're welcome" — you're already way ahead of many 'murricans in speaking Canadian.

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[info]merle_
2008-03-31 06:31 pm UTC (link)
OTOH, as my favorite Buddhist teacher said to a caller during one of the weekly podcasts, "You live in a city — if you walk down the sidewalk talking to yourself, nobody will even notice!"

That would be an interesting extension of Schrödinger's cat and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. If something is vaguely observed in passing but completely ignored, does it collapse the waveform and affect the observed, or not? (no, I'm not being serious, but it would be cool to walk to work as an uncollapsed waveform...)

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