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Eurotrip [21 Feb 2009|12:01am]
My sloppy Itinerary

Leave Saturday, June 13, Toronto, On, Arrive Sunday June 14 8:30am Paris, France.

Take Train to Leuven, Belguim meet for 2:00pm- Explore the town
June 15-19 Brussels Activies/EU Info Sessions
June 20 Saturday, Cultural Day
June 21 Sunday, Amsterdam (Netherlands)
June 22-26 Brussels Activities/Eu Info Sessions
June 27-28 Cultural Days/ Maybe Rotterdam (Netherlands)
June 29 Last Activity/Info day

June 30(Tuesday) Last meeting in the morning, leave Leuven-- Visit Cologne Germany, stay in Hostel in Cologne.
July 1 Leave Cologne in morning, choose to visit on the way(Mannheim, Heidelberg, Stuttgart, Most of Baden-Wuttemberg area [Black Forest + Lake Constance, Fussen])finally arrive in Munich, stay in Hostel in Munich.
July 2 Explore Munich + Nuremberg, visit Dresdon, stay in Hostel in Dresdon
July 3 Explore Dresdon.. then visit Berlin, Stay in Hostel in Berlin
July 4 Explore Berlin/Saturday night bars.. no hostel
July 5 (4am) Train to Hook of Holland (sleep on train) When arrived, take Ferry to Harwich England- Explore London- end up in Nottingham (Stay at Leah's Aunt's house for 4 nights)
July 6 Beatles Tour
July 7 ?????
July 8 ?????
July 9 (Thursday) in the morning, Drive to Liverpool- take ferry across to Dublin, Explore Dublin, stay at hostel for the night
July 10 940 AM Morning flight Dublin to Toronto.

Expenses- My budget (all approx.)
Flight: $596, Air Canada
Accomodation: $1200 [$1000 for 16 nights in University of Leuven,$200 for 5 nights in hostels]
Transportatoon: $750 [10 day unlimited Benelux-Germany train pass= $463, 5 day unlimited BritRail Flexi pass= $163, Ferry to Harwhich and Ferry to Dublin =total $80 + any extra travel costs]
Activities: $500


The question is....... can I do it? Have to wait untol March 15 to send in deposit.. then wait for the approval to buy flight. Just feels... stressful
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Labour and Social Movements of Canada, Lecture 6 [23 Jan 2009|03:57pm]
Nine hours movement

first working-class political organizations, strategy was a series of 'general' strikes, labour develops a more permanent paresence in public life.

Trade Unions Act 1872
-removed criminal taint from unionizing
-needed to register union- few did
-linked to Criminal Law Amendment Act- criminalizes union activities i.e. obstructing
(actually a small margin for workers to utilize this act, actually made means to unions illegal)

Trade union act: Good or Bad for unions?
-limited room for unions to advance
-hardly justifies 1872 as a victory for Canadian workers

-legalized trade unionism, if limited
-workers in the future would revise and overcome these limits (Trade Union Act a start)

Craft unionism, Conclusion
-response of skilled workers to the changing nature of: work, wages, standard of living, and dignity/self worth

Several limitaions of Craft Unionism
-too localized, fragmented, barrier to success

founded in Philadelphia in 1869 (many americans felt that industrialists took advantage of Canada because of unskilled, unorganized, cheap labour)
-secret society of garment workers under the leadership of Uriah Stephens
-premised on the need to organize all workers
-combined aspects of a religious brotherhood, a political reform society and a fraternal order with unionism
-combined aspects

1870s Stephens succeeded by Terrence Powderly
1881 painters meet in Hamilton to form 1st local assembly in CA
1886 more than 200 locals in CA

Structure of the Knights
-very flexible
-indiv members joined either 'trade' assemblies (craft specific) or 'mised' assemblies (various occupations)
-craft workers in leadership roles
-initiation fees
-well defined hierarchy and structure

What attracted workers to the Knights of Labour?
-culture of the movement
- ability to build on mundane class distinctions of daily life
-response to Industrial Rev'
-an alternative opposition
-challenged capitalistic economy directly in 'Declaration of Principles'
-productive labour should be rewarded and respected
-democracy and cooperation
-the 'honest workingman'
-unique combination of ideology and practice
-rituals cemented workers in tradition
-secret, oaths, passwords, and handshakes (created collective working-class consciousness, protected workers from anti-union employers, class pride, self-worth) Picnics, parades, festivals, demonstrated class strength

-linked to 'respectability'
-church going in decline (lapsed masses) class tensions developing inc hurches, anti-union sermons, seating arrangements, financial contributions
Highlighted the differences between classes

Salvation Army
-revivalist movement
-"the equal value of all souls"
-drew on working-class popular culture to attract converts (open air meetings, colourful banners, music, circus-like preachers)

Spreading the light, linked to respectability as well, printers and editors were instructors, taught principles of labour reform, Palladium of Labor, 'brainworkers' elevated sense of self, once educated workers could vote to put society on 'right track'

Women- organized in 1881, failed to recognize the opression of women, but included in working class. Defied proper roles for women, women the peers of men, equal pay for equal work.Leonora Barry, first K o L organizer (emerging women suffrage)

Decline of K of L
-1)economic depression robbed Knights of bargaining edge
2)larger political vision made Knights' leaders insenstive to the shorter term dynamics of workplace struggles- i.e strikes
3) riff between Knights and international trade unions i.e. cigarmakers
4)too utopian, backward looking for their time, they should have focuses on bread and butter unionism ie. wages not reform
6)racist, exclusive rather inclusive ie. Asian workers
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World Politics, Lecture 6, Jan 22nd, 2009 [23 Jan 2009|02:35pm]
Perscriptive theories
Normative theories... (aspiring to certain norms of society)
Liberalism vs. Realism.. both claim objectivity
Neo-Neo debate
p. 126= " status quo objectives" (ex. unequal development) problem solving theories, system maitenance theories

Neo-realism- *structual anarchy of the state system, effect on state behaviour? Neo-realists focus on the state (they set policy, control defence etc.) State is still understood as rational, unitary and self-interested. Particularly they are interested in national defence, and relative gains. Power is a zero-sum game to realists, but neo-realists see that anarchy makes this difficult to achieve. There are offensive neo-realistis (who want to build up national defence) and defensive neo-realists. Ex. Bush doctrine, belief that fighting terrorists in the state will end terror and uphold US security.

Neo-liberalism- respect neo-realists points. A very economic viewpoint (ability to foster trade/build democracy). They say an *International system is anarchy. But that it is easily fixed by building effective int'l institutions. Belief an institutional body will work out our differences. Non-state actors hold importance. States still have rational qualities and seek absolute gains. (WTO) States will act even though they may not gain personally themselves. Some states CHEAT! Interdependence governs this (states seak to be interdepdant rather than dominate each other)Neo-liberal view of interdependance, 2001, 2002, "the dangerous ideas of the early 20th century, bad isms, left to cruelities and casualities, wars crushing to economic decline, so now we have an opportunity to include most of the western hemisphere in one giant free trade agreement.. it is up to us to uphold idea of liberty... recapture original liberal vision" thus, interdependance is an economic thing, power is based on position economically in the international system (trade!!!) IT is also ?democratic? and to realists, ultimately this idea is to keep the US in power, while neo liberals believe they are helping the rest of the world.

To some degree they study different political worlds.
Neo-liberalism- "low politics" Environment... day to day issues. Political regulations on the economy... development, human rights
Neo-realism- "high politics" believes these issues are all secondary to issues such as National Security and Defence.
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European Union continued... lecture 6 Jan 22nd 2009 [23 Jan 2009|10:02am]
Decision making in the European Union

Core question is, how does the EU function/take decisions? Starting points: the scope and importance of EU decision-making have increased over time. (Currency, more member states, increased mobility + common market) However this does not mean decision-making in these areas has been removed from the state government. It is hard to compare the EU to anything else, it is not like a federal government or super goverment which imposes laws on other component parts. We have to remember that the state governments which created the organization are still integral parts of the decision making process. EU decision-making is intensely complicated. People don't fully understand what is going on/what decisions are being made(Ex. who gets into their country (open borders?), how things are traded, interest rates etc.) Democratic defecit? Lisbon treaty is also hard to understand unless you have series of treaties in frotn of you. Sutcliffe says it is "globbily glue" ! The institutional structure and decision-making rules have changed over time. EU needs to play/change the roles based upon the original 6 member states for those new member states... duh. Decision-making varies depending on the type of decision of course. Apparently EU decision-making generates APATHY and CONTROVERSY in the European Union. For example, the referendum turn out rates.. (Constitutional treaty) People are also hostile to European integration. There is a degree of 'Permissive Consensus' public supportive for european integration but not necessarily interested... there is a challenge to this permissive consensus now, where governments are finding themselves needing to defend the EU. Jose Manuel Barroso was appointed President in 2004, he has a voice in nominating other comissioners. He also assigns commisioners their portfolios (determines what they are going to do once in office) Although he has a limited power to remove commissioners.

Major EU institutions
-European Commission (comprised of appointees and civil servants)
-Council of Ministers (comprised of members of the state governments)
-European Council (comprised of prime ministers/presidents)
-European Parliament (comprised of elected politicians)
-European Court of Justice (comprised of appointed judges)
-European Central Bank (comprised of appointed officials)

Often the member state governments appoint.

European Commission- comprised of 27 members (so one from each state currently) who serve five year (renewable) terms. One of the 7 is the Commissin President. The member states select a nominee for Commission President subject to approval by majority of the EP. The remaining Commissioners are selected by their member state government in consultation with the Commission president. The European Parliament holds hearings to examine individual commission nominees and must approve the Commission as a whole. The EP can 'censure' (kick out) the Commission by a 2/3s majority vote thus forcing it to resign.

Functions of the Commission (Executive...)
1) Making policy proposals (ideas) in some areas (Most importantly foreign policy, single market/border policy)
2) Ensuring that policies are implemented correctly. Only rarely do Commission staff do this directly.
3) Represents the EU externally- predominantly in trade negotiations

Democratic legitimacy? Not as much as Barack Obama...
The Commission is expected to serve the interests of the EU as a whole
Commissioners are not allowed to seek or recieve instructions from their member states. They are there to represent the European Union strictly.

-Also known as the Council of the European Union
-Composed of representatives from the member state central governments
-They are there because they are members of domestic government
-Who attends varies depending upon the issue under discussion.
-E.g if the area to be examined is agriculture, then the CoM will consist of 27 agricultural ministers and their support staff.
-if there is a change of government domestically then, there is a change in the Council of Ministers
-Cabinet reshuffles
-Note also that ministers are supported by civil servants from their home state and by national civil servants based in Brussels
-The civil servants in Brussels are headed by an ambassador and are located in an instituion known as COREPER.
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Intro to a Philosophy of Technology- Hans Jonas LYKE OMG [23 Jan 2009|08:26am]

Ethics of Technology, putting self interests aside for the common good (possible for the future?) You need to think long-term in order to evaluate and take control of technological development. Giving priority to long-term thinking becomes incredibly difficult (for example, forget environment people want jobs now!) Plato adopts idea of the 'Philosophy King', who is the most fit to rule the people? He concludes the philosopher is the most fit, because he has as his/her aim/goal purpose a knowledge of the good (while others like to secure interests of some minor group, but philosopher will use power for advancement of the good) Thus, a philosopher must become a king, or king become a philosopher. Philosopher is justified in createing 'noble lies' (telling stories that appease people, make them feel good about themselves/lives etc.) If you're going to sell the idea we need to think ecologically (long-term) you need good public relations (in political parties these techniques are still used for ex. Anti-Dion Ads from Conservative Party) Pretty much manipulation by the advertising industry (it happens all the time.. and do we mind it? We don't even notice most of the time) Unholy alliances, perhaps conspiracy! People seemed to be moved more closely to whats more proximate to them (If you want to move people to donate to a charity, one way to go is to provide a whole list of statistics * this amount die everyday, but this doesn't work peopel simply say oh that's horrible, it is easier to show one image to promote cause, because it is more resonating to people than abstract numbers because they are too detached, thus reason/truth doesn't persuade people as much) Jonas would argue that people's autonomy isn't respected, they need to be/are often pushed along because it is hard to trust people to make the right decisions (pretty much a form of coercion) The philosopher has to try and be optomositic although it might be a hopeless task.

Jumping ahead, Technology and Responsibility (a more detailed assessment of ethical problems we have to face)

1)What we call the human conditions is something permanent, stable, eternal, fixed, with variations across history of a same substantial condition. Really it is a kind of essentialism.
2)The nature of humans and nature was given once and for all (that they don't evolve, have a fixed character)
3)Human good on that basis was readily determinable. (because we are fixed, the idea we can have knowledge of what the human good is is a standard/straightforward thing)
Ex. Aristotle, what establishes humans for animals is there reason, and what the good is for (happiness) To live a happy life you need to achieve a level of moral excellence, and live virtuous. You need to have a thirst for knowledge (contemplation) This is when human beings become closest to being divine. John Stewart Mill, Utilitarianism, no fixed human nature, it is something constantly transformed and modified, and because of this we can't say anymore what the human good is and it is something fundamentally elusive. Since we are unable to know what the good is, it changes everything. "It will be the burdon of my argument, that these (3) will no longer hold. A change for human ethics calls for a change for human nature as well! Emmanuel Kant, "Ought implies can" This means you can only be held morally responsible for the actions you take, (For ex what happened 1066 isn't our moral responsibility). Prof. Rose says responsibility is proportionate to power. Hans Jonas claims 'Technology is Power' Thus our sphere of responsibility has extended because of philosophy. Traditional ethics was that our responsibilities were limited to what individually we were obligated to do. Because of the power of technology, it is no longer our neighbour to be concerned with.. but the whole new scale (even what we buy.. has some moral responbility)Sophycles - Classical world, nature had an appointed balance. Human beings were in a bubble, where they did many things others couldn't but they were limited in a classical view. A principle of justice will put you back in your place, while in modern view everything becomes for human purpose and the bubble changes. Best thing to do is forcus on city-states. Nature has its own rules/principles while humans have theirs, although they are limited by this bubble. Classical mentality is variations on the fixed human being. Responsibility was limited to the sphere of the city, humans didn't have to take responsibility on nature, it was like affecting the Gods. Relationship to Ulysses/cleverness was relationship to nature. Traditional ethics are highly anthropocentric( human centred) Because of the role of technology, the context of our responsibility has dramatically shifted... anthroprocentric ways don't work anymore. Serres says human beings have met a point where we have become another force of nature (ex what you see from space at night (lights etc), you see power that has reached such a high impact..) Stop pg. 235
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[18 Jan 2009|04:02pm]
[ mood | good ]

It's only fate that I will find someone one day. Then all of this confusion/frustration will be worth it. I am not wasting my time, I am simply leading to a climax...that's all.

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[09 Jan 2009|11:52pm]
I am sad because it seems some guys (or possibly most) have no morals when it comes to how they treat women. We're human beings, with feelings, needs, and memory OVBIOUSLY. We're not yours to puppeteer. Are we fuckng barbies? I don't think so.. and you're definitely not mr. perfect Ken either. I'm just really upset.. I see this happpen all the time... with girls I am close to, and now myself. Our bodies are taken for granted... like our souls... are taken for granted. Women are treated like objects, like new cars, or new clothes (maybe even like an addiction, like a new cigarette) But this is all false... all false... It's possible men can't pick the right person to spend their time with, it's possible they can prevent the wasted time.. the pain they inflict on their temporary affairs (in my case 5 months?).. but anyways, it's disgusting, it's immoral... I just wish it would stop, I just wish guys could not be so selfish and think of the other human beings for once
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really? [07 Jan 2009|06:02pm]
[ mood | indifferent ]

Have you ever felt like something wasn't right? Have you ever took the hints, but let them slide? Have you ever wasted time with anyone because it was all a lie? Have you? Have you felt like an object, a tool? Have you felt like you were spinning, without someone to stop and help you up when you fell? Have you? Have you felt this? Have you ever been taken advantage of? Have you ever thought you were special....

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exams...... [14 Dec 2008|01:18pm]
[ mood | aggravated ]


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wow [15 Nov 2008|12:20am]
[ mood | disappointed ]

Wow I was never so unimpressed by the male as I am today. What do guys think were only worth our bodies? Is that our only value... does that just fix everything? Are we your fucking property? I can't even explain to you how I feel after today. Look I have had people stop talking to me for many reasons, but I kinda get it now. You don't care what I have to say, you don't REALLY want to know the truth. Plus, what's the truth? You can argue your way, and I can argue mine, but won't change the truth. This is something people should be crying about, and I can't even cry for myself.


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:) [10 Nov 2008|10:23pm]
[ mood | calm ]

Two words: LOVE LIFE


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Happiness? [07 Nov 2008|10:02pm]
[ mood | contemplative ]

Okay I have come to the conclusion you have to be happy to be truly successful in life. So I am going to try, even though I am horrible at saying I am going to do something. I'm not going to let my family bring me down anymore... I am going to use myself as a compass now. I know what I want to do, I should know how to get there. There are things that are, and things that aren't important. I have been going down a road that only goes down, there are no turnarounds. So what's important is my education, but I have to go beyond that, it is no longer acceptable to be invisible through a crowd; i have to be better at everything. I need to listen to myself talk, I need to at the same time be aware. I must start thinking of other people as what they are, only other people... and no more getting attached. I believe if you are important to someone they won't let you fade away, but there are different reasons for being important; those reasons I won't think about. I could be vague... or i could be making a lot of sense to someone who might be going through this. What am i going through? A reform of self? That could be it... or maybe even more than that. It's hard to think of the world as black and white, but it is. Novels and movies lead us to believe there is more to life, but underneath the pretense there isn't. My opinion.

Goodnight !

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I feel so lost.... [23 Oct 2008|11:51pm]
[ mood | depressed ]

Everyone important to me is gone.
So what, i am left picking up the pieces? Which leads me nowhere but more disappointment. How can one person make someone feel so alone.. so horrible.. almost as if they never existed? Once when a smile made someone feel good... that smile is now nothing, like ashes. How can I let another human being get to me this much? When there are so many other beings to befriend in place of. Is it because were all so unique? Because once one person is gone, they can never be replaced... there is no one close to being the same being, no one else can live again in the same shoes so once you admire someone, once you reall dug in deep to everything they are... you can't lose them. It's too heartbreaking to do so. But it happens, and why should it happen? Why can't people be there, when you need them because you know theyre never coming back to be your friend again, once you've lost everything. Am I going crazy?

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i need not to think [20 Aug 2008|11:40pm]
[ mood | disappointed ]

exact feeling right now: like im shoving my own head into the earth's deep soil, and I know I am making things worse for myself but I push myself farther. I wish to think simply, make room for a cherry on top.. I want positive feedback from myself. What is my problem? Could I actually be insane or does losing your bestfriend over fuck all happen to be a connection to my behaviour. It wouldn't be bad you know.. if we had a bit of time to patch up our differences. But Sunday she's gone embarking on new experiences...fresh faces and all in another city thats there to morph her into this snappy sort of person. Look I can't do anything about it, it was bound to happen one way or another spite if we enjoyed eachother's company or not. So why the big fuss? Why so serious? Start my own life over... don't let myself sit back. How do I make myself happy about this step in my life, forget friendship... but what is it that I can do? If practice makes perfect, how do i live my life is all i want to know? God show me the shade

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[23 Jul 2008|01:03am]
I like my new job, I like the people. Being with them today made me realize how simple life can change. I'm sick of putting up with shit from people... goodbye pyscho bestfriend, goodbye asshole exboyfriend, I am living a new life. I know what I like and what I want, and what i need I already have. Lovely, truly. I am trying to see things much more clearly now... no clouds in the sky. I am going to new york on tuesday for 3 days =)... I am also going to pretend my parents won't be with me. Aeropostale is opening on friday at Windsor Crossings... and it will be a beautiful moment. Saturday is Melissa's birthday and even though I said I will spend time with her before her 7pm dinner, she refuses my attempt at a friendship, but I will have fun at Karli's birthday dinner... she cares about me more than I bet melissa ever will. I am sick of teenage drama bullshit. What is the point? Why am i not taken seriously? Or is it just the psychos taking over my life all the time? I don't know... it is changing though.
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I am in love witht his song [23 Jul 2008|12:57am]
The guilty undertaker sighs,
The lonesome organ grinder cries,
The silver saxophones say I should refuse you.
The cracked bells and washed-out horns
Blow into my face with scorn,
But it's not that way,
I wasn't born to lose you.
I want you, I want you,
I want you so bad,
Honey, I want you.

The drunken politician leaps
Upon the street where mothers weep
And the saviors who are fast asleep,
They wait for you.
And I wait for them to interrupt
Me drinkin' from my broken cup
And ask me to
Open up the gate for you.
I want you, I want you,
I want you so bad,
Honey, I want you.

Now all my fathers, they've gone down
True love they've been without it.
But all their daughters put me down
'Cause I don't think about it.

Well, I return to the Queen of Spades
And talk with my chambermaid.
She knows that I'm not afraid
To look at her.
She is good to me
And there's nothing she doesn't see.
She knows where I'd like to be
But it doesn't matter.
I want you, I want you,
I want you so bad,
Honey, I want you.

Now your dancing child with his Chinese suit,
He spoke to me, I took his flute.
No, I wasn't very cute to him,
Was I?
But I did it, though, because he lied
Because he took you for a ride
And because time was on his side
And because I . . .
I want you, I want you,
I want you so bad,
Honey, I want you.
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[16 Jul 2008|12:45am]
[ mood | confused ]

Why does breaking up have to be so freakin awkward? I wish it could just be easy like pressing a button. I wish it required no thinking... no response just one action and it's history. I am hopeless. I'm either unhappy in the relationship, or still unhappy out of it. How do i know I am making the right choices? These kind of decisions can change your whole life, and that is what scares me... What if I am missing out on the love of my life? Oh but how could i just throw it away so easily? Relationships can't just survive on love...I just don't think they can. Too many difficult situations...and the stress drags me through everyday. But I am upset.. I am the one who broke up with a guy, and I am having an issue when it should have just been a breath of fresh air. I crushed him... I crushed him bad, i feel terrible, I think back to the first week we met.. I think of everything and I want to cry, but this was supposed to be the best way out of the mess. I am 18, i can't even think of all the people i will meet after this summer....my life is taking a huge step and I need to be prepared for that. I just hope I am making the right choice... and that he'll forgive me.

life you suck

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[21 Sep 2007|11:01pm]
[ mood | calm ]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. why write for a school i HATE? I feel bad but... err. I mean, it's not really all that bad, in writers craft we had to write a lot of description of it. but it's not how it looks, smells or sounds... it's the people. I wish, i found the right people and stuck with them (not that i dislike who my friends are now). I just feel so isolated, and its high school i should not feel this way. I need to submit an article to the stang, but crap what would i write? whatever i write reflects who i am...... and i dont like who i am right now so i don't think i should share it.

also I have a poem due monday for a contest, and i just feel really horrible about handing anything in for some reason. I know, I wrote it, I shouldn't be.... but my teacher is going to mark it, and i have no effing idea what she wants to see, and im pretty sure i will confuse her like i confuse mostly everyone i talk to....

p.s have you ever been friends with a guy and never thought of liking him... and then suddenly realizing you do like him when youre finally ready to look? But then it's too late cause you find out he has a girlfriend... then she dumps him, he rebounds for someone else... so then you really give up, but then he dumps HER. get my picture? I talked to him today, i blushed, i smiled, but i wish i didnt think he;s not interested.... and i dont want to be a problem for him, i'm sure he's had enough of girls for a while.

will i ever be happy? the answer is.......

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i think ill try defying gravity.... [13 Sep 2007|09:34pm]
[ mood | creative ]

whoaa... grade 12, is the bomb. all the work i get(which is too rare) i actually enjoy doing, and no math or science to worry me :).

I started my photo journal for writers craft today, and i wrote some good stuff, and took some good stuff, so i think i will take this good stuff and lift up my confidence level a bit. the other day i was freaking out because i missed a massey stang meeting, but it was nothing i just talked to alex who is the editor and she is super sweet anyways so there was no worries. I'm still unsure what i'd like to write about, but it will come soon on a boring day. i have a double spare at the end of the day which is AWESOME, and im also done with my delta driving fun. tomorrow I get to go garden in environment class because our school gardner needs our help, and mr annett is a sweet man.

Today was PICTURE DAY. one of the crappiest days of the school year usually for me, but i managed. The photographer showed me the picture and i'm not very proud but i guess i should be grateful she tried her best. the fire alarm kept going off all day, almost drove me insane, ive missed two literature classes already these past two days and im pretty sure im sick of peter pan already. Tomorrow I have to hand in a "map of my mind" and i know all the enriched kids will go all out making statues or something and i just have a piece of paper drawn on with crayon and coloured pencils, ha.

Yeah well I saw Western last weekend as I went to london for the Western fair. It probably convinced me to go there twice as much. I also saw a rodeo and it was...... different. All the tieing up of the cows legs upset poor melissa. We saw a bunch of farm animals, human cannonbal stunt guy, dog long jump, pretty sweet...

I still work at harveys.help?

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