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Sep. 11th, 2006

  • 11:54 AM
arrrr
so i'm experiencing a number of 'where you were on 9/11' entries like i'm sure a lot of you are. i will not be doing this, because i am some random wank girl who was in ohio at the time and therefore my story is incredibly insignificant.

i am sick of reading stories from people who were 32059632086 miles away from either NYC or DC and just watching it on the news. i don't give a shit about how horrified you felt while you sat in your comfy living room munching popcorn. it is not about you people. today, it is about the folks who were there, from the inhabitants of the WTC, the pentagon, NYC, DC, and the folks who died - from the firefighters, policemen, and the civilians, and their families and loved ones. those people whose fate were determined by the most insignificant actions in their mornings - buying a cup of coffee and adding cream, they lived -  taking the extra time to stir sugar in - they died.

it is not about you, and it certainly is not about the media and patriotic fiasco that this tragedy has become. stop making it about yourselves, and focus on the folks who actually suffered because of this.

EDIT #2: done with this. nowhere in here have i told people to NOT post about their experiences. nowhere in this post have i said 'you are SOOOO not allowed to post about this!'[and for fuck's sake, people - even if i *did* say that? who the fuck am i, dictator of livejournal or something? are you required to act upon my every command?] i said i am sick of the insignificant [IN MY OPINION THANK YOU] posts, which, more amusingly, a lot of you have assumed that i was talking about your post[s] in particular. which, again, proves my point about how everyone has to make it about themselves all the fucking time.

now, for those of you that totally didn't get what i was trying to say, i am disabling comments, because you are spending way too much time on this insignificant entry. go. listen. here's a starting point for you.

a big heartfelt thanks to the nice number of you that did [and do] understand.
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[info]theonebob wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:06 pm (UTC)
Yep.
[info]batty_ wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:26 pm (UTC)
i have read your story at least 5 times over this morning.
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[info]pathogen wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:09 pm (UTC)
I'd argue that it might be important for people to show solidarity in the face of what happened, but generally, nothing good comes from nations showing solidarity so I'm going to continue pretending today is Bastille Day.
[info]batty_ wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:25 pm (UTC)
you can show solidarity by shitting up and listening. [and i don't mean you directly, that was a general you]
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[info]serialkiller wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:09 pm (UTC)
thank you.
[info]spacekadt wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:18 pm (UTC)
I knew I loved you. Thank you.
[info]lux_ferre wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:24 pm (UTC)
Thank you. I sympathize with everyone because I don't want to come across as a heartless beast or seem like I have to prove that omgz, I was right there, I have more tragic experience than you!! But, all I can think is " you have absolutely no fucking idea" when people in Idaho or whereever else millions of miles away have something to say about their "experience" whilst watching it on the news.
[info]bellafiga wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:29 pm (UTC)
Preach it!!!

[info]swizzle_ wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:39 pm (UTC)
wow, that's a little harsh. Don't you think the reason why people want to share their stories is because they were moved by the stories of the people who were victims of 9/11? They are not selfish stories, they are remember those who lost their lives that day by writing these words. What is selfish is not allow people to remember freely by criticizing them for doing it.
[info]batty_ wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:43 pm (UTC)
it is not relating, it is not showing solidarity. it is drowning out the voices of the people who actually matter. not talking is also an excellent way to show respect and remembrance, my friend.
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[info]cynica wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:41 pm (UTC)
hm - just clarifying.

that day rocked my everlovin' world and changed my life in a lot of ways.

but it's not real or not good enough 'cause I wasn't in close proximity?
[info]batty_ wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:49 pm (UTC)
everyone was affected and still continues to be so. however, today - those people who suffered - yup, their stories are more important today. i wasn't covered in pulverized dust and human remains, i wasn't jumping out the 98th floor because i had no other option. i was sitting at work watching these things happen. and, to me, my story means absolutely nothing today.


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[info]c0c0c0 wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:46 pm (UTC)
AMEN!!
[info]jetgrrl01 wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:46 pm (UTC)
I do not doubt the difference in suffering for the average joe and those who were there, immediately impacted, or have a family member lost, but it's bullshit to say that just because you were far away nothing bad happened to you. I was in CA, but many of my family members live near the WTC, my stepmom was on an airplane that morning, my mom worked for government and had to go into "hiding" (not to mention having many friends in the Pentagon), I knew a girl on Flight 93... there's lots of stuff that made it a traumatic day for those of us not in NYC or DC.

I no way do I think my day was as bad as people who died or lost fathers/mothers or husbands/wives or chilren... but today is a day to reflect and I don't think you have to have post-traumatic stress disorder to do so.

But I do hate the media with a passion, so I'll just do my reflecting on my own time.
[info]batty_ wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:49 pm (UTC)
did you pass up the part where i said 'families and loved ones'?
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[info]grypx wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:50 pm (UTC)
THANK YOU.
[info]beeporama wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 04:58 pm (UTC)
I guess it says something about my media consumption, or my LJ friends list, that I haven't really seen any of that.
[info]pathogen wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:03 pm (UTC)
Actually, now that I think about it more, I don't see how people can be expected to not think about how their life was affected. It's historically valid to, in fact, like how people always remembered where they were when JFK got shot. Sure, nobody but him and his family were DIRECTLY affected by the bullet, but on a national psyche level, it was a solid blow to the gut. Likewise, it's like the number that the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings did on the Japanese cultural psyche. Things that happen on a grand scale such as losing a leader on national TV, getting two of your major cities wiped off the planet or watching live, televised coverage of a national icon being reduced to rubble does seem to be emotionally scarring on a massive scale.
[info]pathogen wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:06 pm (UTC)
and I'm not trying to criticize your stance on it, I'm just thinking out loud now.
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[info]hairpasta wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:05 pm (UTC)
Amen sista!
[info]gothic_oreo wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:10 pm (UTC)
Eh, Saying that is kind of like telling people not in Hawaii on Pearl Harbor day that their story is unimportant and the need to STFU.

Or the JFK assassination, or either Shuttle disaster, or when the Berlin Wall fell, or any of the seminal events of anybodies life.

[info]batty_ wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:51 pm (UTC)
you missed the point.
[info]porcelain72 wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:10 pm (UTC)
As someone who lives in NYC now (but didn't when it happen) and who loves someone who was there (but refuses to talk about it), let me say thank you. This is the best thing I've read on the matter all day. In the midst of 564658764757 friends, might you have room for one more?
[info]batty_ wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:28 pm (UTC)
come on in, the e-door is always open.
[info]jenni_goes_grrr wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:29 pm (UTC)
I'm with you on this.. My husband WAS impacted by this *on his way home from deployment, extended with no notice and had his ship parked outside afghanistan for 2 months, his ship was the actual start of this whole fuck fest" but its just.. i dont want to think about it.. blah
[info]br0d wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:29 pm (UTC)
you make freedom cry, batty.
ahhh yess freedom my precious, i am freedom's falconeer
if freedom was a falcon
eagleer
ok that doesnt sound right


[info]batty_ wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:32 pm (UTC)
no 9/11 post is complete until it has a fucking crying bald eagle.
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[info]disastrid wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:33 pm (UTC)
high fuckin five, yo.
[info]baronessvarla wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:38 pm (UTC)
hmmm I find it interesting that so many people would fight for their right to express their feelings by telling you you don't have the right to express yours.
[info]cynica wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:43 pm (UTC)
Show me one thread or person in here that says, "Batty, you have no right to say this."
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[info]wyliekat wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:55 pm (UTC)
There's opinion and then there is telling everyone who posts about it that they have no right. Where I commented is where your right to an opinion and that statement of having no right meet up and clash. This isn't a de-friend worthy issue as far as I'm concerned, but I do reserve my right to respectfully disagree with you.
[info]batty_ wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 05:56 pm (UTC)
where did i tell them they didn't have a right to?
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[info]volatilefiona wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2006 10:28 pm (UTC)
I live right outside New York city. I knew several people who worked at the world trade center at the time. (Thankfully, they are all fine) In spite of this, I have no desire to post about it.
Go figure.
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