Kali
One thing I will say about 7x05 is that it sure did generate a lot to talk about (seriously, there's like a dozen different topics I am holding off making posts about) and I actually even started writing a fic, although naturally I am jinxing myself by saying that out loud. (On... the internet...) So... well done there I guess?

I told placebetween, who does not watch Doctor Who but remains endlessly fascinated by its fandom wank, about how minor spoiler for 7x05 and also my usual cheery attitude towards Eleven as a character.Collapse )

Anyway, both of those things sort of lead me to this, which springs from Doctor Who musings but is in no way limited to Doctor Who or DW fandom.

SO the big srs discussion question I pose to you all is: what makes a good character? Is it a combination of narrative and development or is it something at the core of the character, the basic idea and traits? Can a good character be a good character but be poorly written, or does being poorly written automatically mean they can't be? Can a good character be trapped in a poor narrative and/or poorly developed and still be a good character?

And I guess the flipside of that is: can a character that is well-developed and/or have a good narrative and still be a "bad" (as in, objectively poorly constructed, not "bad" as in "evil" or unlikable) character?

I ask because to me, I guess, having a good narrative/being well-developed/otherwise "well written" is what makes a "good character" -- but I think other people must not feel the same, because I often see people claim someone as a great character in spite of a poor narrative, poor development, whatever. I'm thinking specifically of Amy Pond here, but it's not just Amy -- Martha gets this a lot as well ("I love Martha, she's amazing, even though the writers didn't do her justice"), and I'm sure it applies to other characters and other fandoms. (Glee springs to mind, given how much Glee fans seem to hate Glee, but I don't watch so I can't pick out specific examples.)

It's not even getting into the argument of whether or not Amy or Martha (for example) are poorly developed/trapped in poor narratives, because what sticks out to me is when I see someone say both at once; they define the narrative and/or development as bad but also go on to describe the character as great in spite of this. It's also I think something different from people having a favourite character, because that's sort of a more personal thing and I can imagine latching onto a character and then not particularly liking what happens with them but retaining that fondness anyway.

I don't think there's a right answer here but I am curious what people think.
 
 
 
Kali
SO there's a trailer out for that Doctor Who videogame:


As Doctor Who videogames go it looks reasonably well done. If I had any of the platforms (and was more interested in the characters) I'd probably want to check it out. Shit, the iPhone game gave me hours of amusement, plus it's neat that they got Matt Smith and Alex Kingston to do the voices.

BUT UGH ROLLING MY EYES SO HARD @ River being dressed in that catsuit she wore once. Because it's not a real videogame unless the female lead is appropriately sexy in a catsuit and has cleavage, amirite.

I also have a fic rec!

still like to go for a train ride ('cause i've got a thing about trains) by cereal
R for sex (I'd probably say PG-13), Ten2/Rose, ~4k words
The Doctor and Rose investigate an alien threat. On a train. 'Clom' is what the Doctor would call a gimme. Probably in every other bowl, even. The holy grail of cereal words -- Raxacoricofallapatorius -- has eluded him thus far, which is just as well, because Rose has promised him a shag on the Manchester United pitch if he pulls it off.

Read it because: Adorable, funny and in-character alien-adventure-fic for Cloen and Rose is becoming an endangered species and this is such a fun one! Simple and fluffy but in-character and funny enough to be engaging. This is how I like to imagine them when I'm not writing fic to ruin their lives.

Lastly, in honour of the beautiful fanart in my previous post, I finally got around to compiling a poll I've been meaning to do for ages: a poll about Doctor Who comic artists' continuing struggle to draw David Tennant.

Cut because the images are big. And hideous.Collapse )
 
 
 
Kali
23 December 2011 @ 01:13 pm
So Tay and I were discussing this gif:



And then it sparked some debate.

"Old fella" means a person's

Husband
29(55.8%)
Father
20(38.5%)
Penis apparently??????? Says Google.
3(5.8%)
 
 
 
Kali

OKAY, SO, AS FAR AS ARBITRARY DEFINITIONS OF FANDOM SLANG, GO, what are the restrictions on "OTP"?

You can only have one OTP per fandom. (eg. If you OTP Ron/Hermione you can only "ship" Harry/Ginny, not OTP them.)
14(16.3%)
You can only have one OTP per character. (eg. Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione can both be OTPs, but Ron/Hermione and Ron/Luna cannot.)
41(47.7%)
OTP just means something you ship really hard, regardless of overlap or conflict or number. (eg. Ron/Hermione and Ron/Luna OTP!)
29(33.7%)
You can only have one OTP at all. (eg. RON/HERMIONE OR BUST)
2(2.3%)
Something else elaborate to be explained in the comments.
0(0.0%)

What if you have a dumb fandom ike Doctor Who with multiple "eras"?

You can only have one OTP per character. (eg. Ten/Rose and Martha/Mickey can both be OTPs))
32(37.2%)
You can only have one OTP per era. (eg. Ten/Rose and Amy/Rory can both be OTPs, but not Amy/Rory and Eleven/River.)
9(10.5%)
You can only have one OTP for the fandom. (eg. DOCTOR/ROSE OR BUST)
8(9.3%)
You can have as many OTPs as you want. OTP ALL the things!
34(39.5%)
Something else elaborate to be explained in the comments.
3(3.5%)
 
 
 
Kali
I don't remember why spud14 and I started talking about this other day BUT WE DID so here is a morbid poll for your Friday morning.

In a Hunger Games-esque gladiator-type cage match of (new) Doctor Who companions, what would the results be? OBVS THIS IS SRS BSNSS AND YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THEIR SKILLS AND TRAITS AND NOT JUST VOTE FOR YOUR FAVOURITE. I am watching you, fandom.

Poll #1767323 COMPANION HUNGER GAMES :O

SO -- who dies first?

Rose Tyler
2(2.4%)
Martha Jones
1(1.2%)
Donna Noble
9(11.0%)
Amy Pond
6(7.3%)
Rory Williams
29(35.4%)
River Song
1(1.2%)
Jack Harkness (mortal edition)
10(12.2%)
Mickey Smith
24(29.3%)

And perhaps more importantly, who wins?

Rose Tyler
12(14.8%)
Martha Jones
17(21.0%)
Donna Noble
14(17.3%)
Amy Pond
0(0.0%)
Rory Williams
4(4.9%)
River Song
30(37.0%)
Jack Harkness (mortal edition)
4(4.9%)
Mickey Smith
0(0.0%)
 
 
 
Kali
So we rewatched Girl in the Fireplace last night. I think I'm going to do a sort of round-up post at the end of s2 with my general Rewatch Thoughts, so I will spare you my feelings until that time, but it did leave me wondering about this one repeated phrase which I assumed was a British Thing but which shinyopals says is not:

"We've had some cowboys in here" (in a figurative sense) is...

Not a phrase I have ever heard (Totally unfamiliar)
45(61.6%)
A phrase I have only heard once or twice from the same source (Relatively unfamiliar)
17(23.3%)
A phrase I have heard a few times from various sources (Familiar)
11(15.1%)
A phrase I would use/have used myself (Very familiar)
0(0.0%)
 
 
 
Kali
11 May 2011 @ 10:37 pm
THINGS I NEED that I could probably Google but evidently would rather ask you for:

1. A (London) gang name -- real or fictitious, IDC
2. A fancy-ish, fast car that might be owned by a random citizen of London

YOU COULD WIN: the eternal glory of me using these things to fill in the blanks in fic, so I don't post another chapter of Identity Theft that accidentally still says something like "at Some Restaurant".

Here is a hilarious fanvideo for your time:

 
 
 
Kali
06 May 2011 @ 04:15 pm
I have been meaning to ask this for a while, and NOW I AM. So, QUESTION FOR THE LADIES OUT THERE which I am pretty sure is all of you:

Poll #1738734 ~hello ladies

Do you ever refer to your platonic female friends as your "girlfriends"?

Yes
28(30.4%)
No
64(69.6%)
 
 
Current Mood: curiouscurious
 
 
 
Kali
14 April 2011 @ 06:22 pm
I am now curious: has anyone read all of the Series of Unfortunate Events books? Can someone give me a basic run-down of the ending and whether or not it was happy or whatever? I read the first five years ago and lost interest but I've always been curious and Wikipedia is confusing and vague.
 
 
 
Kali
26 March 2011 @ 02:47 pm
So as I have mentioned, I totally flounced from s4 of Secret Diary after 4x03 and haven't watched since. Now that the show is wrapped up and I am sure some of you have seen it all, I want your help DECIDING MY FATE.


Poll #1722893 secret diary what have you become

Should I watch the rest of series 4?

Yes, because it was good.
1(4.2%)
Yes, because it was okay.
0(0.0%)
Yes, because Billie Piper is hot.
8(33.3%)
Just skip to 4x08
8(33.3%)
No, you are happier just assuming it ended after s3 and Belle and Bambi eventually ran away together.
7(29.2%)


Note that I would not like to actually be spoiled for the proceedings before I make my decision, even though I am pretty sure I already am spoiled because the internet doesn't understand lj-cuts.

Secondly, Community referenced Doctor Who on Thursday and it was magical. My favourite American show referencing my favourite British show! Awesome. Also, The Office has been good lately, it is too bad they won't go out on this high note.
 
 
 
Kali
13 March 2011 @ 09:45 pm
I. On Friday I hung out with my friend. We decided to rent Back to the Future because I have somehow gone 21 years without ever seeing that film. AND THEN... the video store didn't have it. Wtf? This is actually like the third time this has happened to me. Anyway, then we tried to rent Jurassic Park, but they didn't have the first one. And then we found... 100 Million BC. The basic plot? Back in WWII, the US Navy developed a method of time travel and sent a test team back to the ~age of dinosaurs~ (because they were worried that sending them any earlier would risk Butterfly Effect stuff -- which leaves you to wonder why they carried on with the time travel project). Predictably, the team got stuck there, and now, 60 years later, a rescue team is being SENT BACK IN TIME! And they accidentally bring a dinosaur back with them to the future. So really, it kind of combined both Jurassic Park and Back to the Future. Go us.

Words can't do justice to how amazing this movie was. Everything was terrible. The special effects, the writing, the acting, the sets, the production values, the concept -- it was so bad that the video was not even centered on the tv screen. Here is a YouTube video that has most of the best moments, though the guys narrating are kind of unfunny:



There were even special features on this DVD. IDEK someone paid thousands of dollars to make this, I can't fathom it.

II. On a totally different note, a poll!
Poll #1717553 rpf is weird okay

The two actors who play the couple you ship start dating in real life. You are:

excited because that is awesome and clearly they have ~real chemistry
11(27.5%)
a little bit horrified because what if it kills the chemistry, or what if they break up?
10(25.0%)
not bothered either way because they can do what they want
19(47.5%)
 
 
 
Kali
28 January 2011 @ 01:57 pm
This is clearly the ~hip new trend and despite not being much of a shipper I wanted in on that action, I guess. SO:

Poll #1673793 ALL THE COOL KIDS ARE DOING IT

How many of these totally correct ships do you ship?

Ten/Rose
86(14.5%)
Cloen/Rose
76(12.8%)
James/Lily
57(9.6%)
Nathan/Kelly
12(2.0%)
Anything But Jeff/Annie
19(3.2%)
Jim/Pam
42(7.1%)
Amy/Rory
61(10.3%)
Barney/Robin
33(5.6%)
~*~OBHWF~*~
29(4.9%)
TARDIS/Room of Requirement
42(7.1%)
Ten/Emo Rain of Pathetic Fallacy
52(8.8%)
Ten/Fire
53(8.9%)
Nine's calloused hands/Moisturizer
32(5.4%)
 
 
 
Kali
19 January 2011 @ 06:55 pm
Okay the other day in mrv3000's lj it came to my attention that some people do not agree with me on an UNDENIABLE TRUTH. So I have decided to do a poll:

Which is the better of the inferior specials?

The Next Doctor
45(51.7%)
Planet of the Dead
42(48.3%)
 
 
 
Kali
18 December 2010 @ 01:40 pm
INSPIRED BY THIS NEWS:

Poll #1658276 THE ULTIMATE QUESTION

CAPS LOCK OR SHIFT? GO.

CAPS LOCK
39(50.6%)
SHIFT
38(49.4%)
 
 
 
Kali
30 October 2010 @ 04:36 pm
So you may or may not know that I'm minoring in linguistics. A side-effect of this is that I find language variation really interesting and often wind up quizzing everyone I know when I discover a disagreement over the meaning of a word/phrase or its pronunciation etc.

The first two questions are just for demographics, you can skip them if they offend your sensibilities. A lot of the options are very binary and neither might be accurate for your accent, you can skip those as well. There is undoubtedly quite a North American/Canadian English slant in these questions, because that is the language I encounter daily, sorry if your accent/vernacular is not covered.

Poll #1638545 LINGUISTICS IS AWESOME

Where are you from?

How old are you?

<15
1(0.9%)
15-25
77(68.8%)
26-35
23(20.5%)
36-45
9(8.0%)
46-55
0(0.0%)
56-65
0(0.0%)
65+
2(1.8%)

The word "shone", as in "the light shone down through the clouds", sounds like

"Shawn", as in "that man's name is Shawn"
20(19.0%)
"Shown", as in "Have I shown you where I keep the bodies?"
85(81.0%)

The phrases "rice ales" and "rye sales" sound the same.

True
47(42.7%)
False
63(57.3%)

"Buzzed", as in, "I was buzzed at the party last night", means

Intoxicated, specifically alcohol
57(50.9%)
Intoxicated, specifically marijuana
7(6.2%)
Intoxicated, non-specific
48(42.9%)

The first part of "hoodlum" sounds like

"Hood", as in "the hood of my jacket is full of BEES"
94(83.9%)
"Who'd", as in "Who'd want to put bees in my jacket?"
18(16.1%)

Freshman year of high school is...

Grade 9
19(17.3%)
9th Grade
75(68.2%)
My schooling sytsem does not use the word "grade", F YOUR AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
16(14.5%)

If you do something accidentally, you've done it

On accident
26(23.6%)
By accident
84(76.4%)

The "i" sound in "rider" and "writer" are

The same
80(72.1%)
Different
31(27.9%)

The 3-letter word for mother is

"Mum", spelled M U M
28(25.0%)
"Mom", spelled M O M
74(66.1%)
"Mum", spelled M O M
10(8.9%)

The "w" sound in "witch" and the w sound in "which" are

The same
91(81.2%)
Different
21(18.8%)
 
 
 
Kali
20 October 2010 @ 10:49 pm
shinyopals wrote up a pretty great post about consent and the need for warnings in fanfiction (with particular attention to tropes in Doctor Who fic and probably sci-fi in general) that you should all go read. Given the subject matter, there's some potentially triggery stuff in the post related to sexual assault, rape, and consent in general.

In slightly more light-hearted fare, I did this poll over a year ago and now am curious to see how the results have shifted, so... POLL 2.0!

I have been known to refer to that character from Journey's End as...

10.5
41(15.0%)
Ten II
65(23.7%)
Ten2
37(13.5%)
TenToo
10(3.6%)
Handy
22(8.0%)
Cloen
52(19.0%)
blue!Ten
7(2.6%)
Metacrisis Doctor
11(4.0%)
human Ten
17(6.2%)
John Smith
4(1.5%)
Starfish
5(1.8%)
HORRIBLE PLOT DEVICE THAT CONTINUES TO RUIN MY SHIP FOREVERRR
3(1.1%)

Is this just a poll so that Frances and Kali can feel smug about how many people have started using "Cloen"?

Yes
67(100.0%)
 
 
 
Kali
03 October 2010 @ 05:59 pm
It is Sunday and I am massively bored because the internet is boring as usual, so here is a poll:

What are you doing this Halloween?

I plan to attend a ROCKIN' PARTY WHOOO
13(14.9%)
I plan to hit the clubs aww yeah
7(8.0%)
Trick-or-treating with kids/younger relatives
6(6.9%)
I usually hand out the candy
6(6.9%)
I usually turn out all the house lights and scowl at trick-or-treaters from behind the curtains
3(3.4%)
Putting razorblades in ALL THE CANDY APPLES!
6(6.9%)
Watching the obligatory horror movies and possibly gorging on the tiny chocolate bars
7(8.0%)
Maybe hanging out with a couple people
11(12.6%)
Dunno/nothing/no plans yet
22(25.3%)
I live in a sad deprived country that doesn't do Halloween
6(6.9%)

If you have a costume in mind already, what is it?



Also, lol @ this fandomsecret. Go to bed, Ten.
 
 
 
Kali
26 August 2010 @ 12:38 am
IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR ALL OF YOU:

I am from

Canada
14(15.7%)
America
49(55.1%)
Elsewhere
26(29.2%)

I have heard of Sarah Mclachlan.

True
78(87.6%)
False
11(12.4%)
 
 
 
Kali
31 July 2010 @ 02:34 pm
Yeah I'm doing two days again because I am still behind. WHATEVER I do what I want.

Day 19 - The Episode That Made You Cry The Most

Okay, Journey' End wins by default of being the only episode that made me cry. I dunno, I just don't really cry unless it is a Pixar movie. There are lots of points in Doctor Who that punch me in the grief bone, but the only one I've ever actually cried over was Donna. I feel like I have discussed this like a trillion times on this meme though.

Day 20 – The Character Who Is Most Like You

I have no idea. YOU TELL ME, INTERNET. There are no characters on this show who strike me as being ZOMG JUST LIKE ME beyond maybe a trait or two per character. I'm Rose's age? I'm a student like Martha? I'm loud like Donna? I... have curly hair like River? OMG I KNOW, it's like they were modelled after me.

This raises an interesting point though, I think. Part of the reason I might have difficulty with this question is that I don't honestly actively look for characters who are "like me" in the media I consume. I guess if the next companion was a 20-year-old English major from Canada that would be nifty, but it's not really something I look for. The only time I'm likely to notice any similarities at all is if they're really obscure -- like the way Britta Perry says "bagel". (I FEEL YOU, GIRL.) As long as I understand why a character does what they do, I don't really care if it's something I would do in that situation or not. This was part of my issue with Amy Pond in the back half of series 5. It wasn't so much that I didn't like what she was doing, so much as it was that I didn't understand why she was doing it.

Even if we extend this question beyond Doctor Who, I cannot think of a single fictional character I have ever related to "the most" or who I ever thought of as "just like me". (I mean, aside from being a dumb 15-year-old and reading teen lit and thinking every generic narrator character was "so like me". lol @ u, past Kali.) The only example I can even think of is that my friend's mom used to tell both me and my friend repeatedly that I was "just like" Donna from That 70s Show, something I cannot really verify but will take as a compliment because Donna was awesome. On the other hand, getting back to Amy Pond, it seems like a lot of the people who really love Amy do so because they feel they can really relate to her.

So, flist, RIDDLE ME THIS:

My favourite character is usually...

Someone I really relate to/someone who reminds me of me
8(11.6%)
Someone I want to be like
13(18.8%)
Someone I find interesting, regardless of whether I would like them in real life or not
33(47.8%)
Whoever is the hottest. I do what I want.
5(7.2%)
Some other option Kali hasn't thought of because she hasn't put much effort into this poll
10(14.5%)


Here's a list of the other days.Collapse )
 
 
 
Kali
20 July 2010 @ 10:06 pm
QUESTION for my worldly Doctor Who fans: what's the name of the museum from The Big Bang and where is it?

I was going to do Roman numerals but then I realized I have basically nothing else to say, so I will just cut straight to the 30-day meme. I bet you're all pumped.

Day 13 – Your Favourite Villain

The Master



Okay to be fair, it's not like there's any competition, because it's not like any of the other villains are even remotely dynamic or, um, anything. I mean, Davros? Cybermen for the millionth time? Who cares.

But the Master is still great, mostly because his entire mission in life seems to be "piss off the Doctor". The only way his grand scheme in Last of the Time Lords makes ANY sense to me is if we assume he just did it all for the lulz, which honestly seems like a believable motive with his characterisation so why not. I have only really seen John Simm in the role, unless you count Eric Roberts (and frankly, who does?), but he worked well as a foil for Ten and was generally entertaining to watch, which is the most I can ask of a villain. For some reason the fact that his plans were always completely cracked out and illogical just endeared him to me, as did the fact that he has the weirdest idea of captivity ever and totally hired someone to make a tiny pinstriped suit for Dobby. I sort of think his role in RTD's Who simultaneously encompassed everything that was good and bad about RTD's writing, giving us some of the weirdest plots ever alongside some really good, interesting character work. ...And a lot of gay subtext.


Day 14 – The Villain Who Scared You the Most

The Weeping Angels


Honestly, I don't scare easily at all, so there aren't really any on this show that terrified me. But part of the reason I decided to check out more episodes after watching "Blink" was because the Weeping Angels were creepy enough to intrigue me. However, I think that bringing them back in s5 and retconning just about everything about them in the process ultimately took away from their scare factor.

Runners-up would be the thing from Midnight and the Vashta Nerada, whom I liked in theory but not so much in practice. (Shadows are scary. Lumbering plastic skeletons in space suits are not.)



The rest of the days!Collapse )