15 November 2009 @ 10:37 pm
waters of mars!  
I almost DIED trying to get out to goldy_dollar's, just as a matter of interest.

Ahem.
I will probably do some kind of long-winded bantering quasi-intellectual meta on why I think it is ballsy and honest and awesome for RTD to show Ten completely cracking.

But that will have to come tomorrow or something when I have more time, so get ready for CAPSLOCKY REACTION POST OF INTERNET-YELLING.

Back when I watched Torchwood: Children of Earth with Frances, I remember our reactions being basically like this:

goldy_dollar: Wow, that was really dark and depressing.
Me: That was awesome.

Basically the reaction to Waters of Mars was like:
goldy_dollar: Wow, that was really dark and depressing.
Me: THAT WAS AWESOME

Adelaide was awesome, the story structure was awesome, sonic-segwaying on Wall-E was hilarious, Pompeii shoutout was awesome, angsty speeches of angst were awesome, Ten totally losing his shit and going all I AM TIME LORD VICTORIOUS THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAA was awesome, and unexpected Ood was unexpected.

And then on the bus ride home, lacunaz texted me and we had this conversation:
lacunaz: I just watched dw. Ten is head douche of doucheville in the county of great douche.
Me: OMFG I LOVE IT. HE SO CRAZY.
lacunaz: WHAT WOULD DONNA SAY, DOCTOR. THIS IS WHY YOU NEED ADULT SUPERVISION.
Me: YOU KNOW YOU NEED A THERAPIST WHEN YOU START HALLUCINATING OOD.


As for the trailer, there wasn't much I think we hadn't already seen in the shakey cam-version of the ComiCon one. BUT AHHH. DO WANT. DONNA. COME BACK TO ME MY LOVE. AND SKELETON MASTER LOL.

In conclusion:



WELL PLAYED, RTD. I EAGERLY AWAIT MORE EMOTIONAL BATTERING AT CHRISTMASTIME.
 
 
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demented & sad, but socialpapilio_luna on November 16th, 2009 03:46 am (UTC)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kali_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 03:49 am (UTC)
IAWTC

I don't even know what the general consensus is on this thing yet, I plan to read everyone's posts on the matter tomorrow, but I feel like we are usually on the same page with these things.
(no subject) - papilio_luna on November 16th, 2009 03:50 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - _thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 03:53 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - papilio_luna on November 16th, 2009 03:55 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - _thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 03:59 am (UTC) (Expand)
aleph: gunship tardis help wantedlacunaz on November 16th, 2009 03:55 am (UTC)
The last third of the episode all I could think was "He is crazy. HE HAS ACTUALLY GONE INSANE. AND I LOVE IT."

WoM apparently has the honour of having the douchiest and most emo incarnation of the Doctor for me yet. So... well played, RTD. Well played.

Kali_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 03:57 am (UTC)
BUT HE HAS. AND THAT'S THE POINT. AND IT'S AWESOME. IDK. I FIND THIS DELIGHTFUL. I WILL PROBABLY EXPLAIN WHY IN SEVERAL PARAGRAPHS TOMORROW.

WoM was badass. Nice try, Next Doctor and Planet of the Dead, but you clearly do not belong with the big kids.
(no subject) - lacunaz on November 16th, 2009 04:16 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - _thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 04:21 am (UTC) (Expand)
willendinrain: Waters of Marswillendinrain on November 16th, 2009 03:58 am (UTC)
Ugh, AMAZING!

The entire episode kicked ass and took names. I loved Ten's entire inner voiceover as he walking away and subsequent TIMELORD MENTALCRISIS.

And, God, Adelaide just cutting him down to size was completely EPIC! Like, I almost (almost) *didn't* miss Donna because Adelaide bitch-slapped Ten so well. Fabulous.

Poor Ten, though. He just a little lost birdie who needs a mummy. : (

CANNOT WAIT UNTIL CHRISTMAS!

Jesus' birth? Pst. Whatever. DOCTOR WHO!
Kali: dw :: doctors :: peek around the corner_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 04:01 am (UTC)
RIGHT? OMG SO AWESOME.

Adelaide was seriously kickass, I approve. Her response... well minus the suicide... in the last bit was just spot-on. A+. FOUR FOR YOU, ADELAIDE BROOKE.

I do feel bad for Ten. I also cannot blame him for snapping because I probably would've snapped sometime circa The Next Doctor, rofl.

I AM SO EXCITED. IT IS GOING TO BE SO ANGSTY AND AWESOME.
(no subject) - johnmayergirl23 on November 16th, 2009 04:12 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - _thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 04:14 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - johnmayergirl23 on November 16th, 2009 04:44 am (UTC) (Expand)
Beckbeck_liz on November 16th, 2009 03:59 am (UTC)
I thought it was awesome; I also thought it was depressing as hell and had to go watch "The Doctor Dances" for a happy ending. However, I think I liked it and will watch it again despite the depressing just because it was so good. Adelaide was fantastic; I completely loved her and totally believed that she was the sort of person who could spur her granddaughter out to the stars. Also loved the Dalek/"Journey's End" connection.

He so needs a companion with him at all times. I mean, I think Adelaide probably snapped him out of Dark Side mode at the end there, but her way of doing it totally sucked and is not recommended.

BTW, I decided I should just go ahead and friend you. Hi. :-)
Kali_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 04:05 am (UTC)
It was depressing, but apparently I am a glutton for this stuff because right now I am ust like :D :D :D THAT WA AWESOME instead of curled in a ball weeping. It's basically how I reacted to COE, except more intense because I care about Doctor Who and I do not care about Torchwood.

Adelaide was a total grade-A bamf, I approve so hard. I am going to miss RTD's women. And the TSE connection was great! I was so excited! Even if the flying Dalek looked hilarious!

Oh man, Ten is so screwed in the head. It is probably in everyone's best interest that he regenerates, let's be honest.

Hi! Friending you back.

(no subject) - beck_liz on November 16th, 2009 04:10 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - _thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 04:22 am (UTC) (Expand)
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(no subject) - _thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 04:24 am (UTC) (Expand)
Anya: doctor who (the doctordonna)erethesunrises on November 16th, 2009 04:08 am (UTC)
YES. SO TOTALLY FREAKING AWESOME. I NEED TO GO MAKE A COHERENT POST BUT MY BRAIN'S STILL MALFUNCTIONING FROM AWESOME.
Kali_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 04:09 am (UTC)
MINE TOO. I NEED TO GO TO BED BUT I'M JUST LIKE AGHWIOHITHWITHLAT.
Austinjohnmayergirl23 on November 16th, 2009 04:10 am (UTC)
DONNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
I hadn't seen any spoilers for The End of Time, so I was squeeing and freaking out. AND WILF. MOAR WILF.

I love this episode sfm. I love angry!Ten most of all (sorry, emo!Ten). But crazy!Ten kind of made me uncomfortable. It's like in FoB when he had a gun. I was like WOAH, WAIT A MINUTE. WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

emotional comment makes no sense. GAAAAAAHHHHH.
Kali: dw :: ten :: fire and ice and rage_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 04:13 am (UTC)
DONNA. I knew she was coming back but DONNADONNADONNA. Also, Donna crying, which suggests she like.. does stuff ... instead of just go "OHAI JOHN SMITH" and disappear like some people were suggesting she might.

WILF IS THE COMPANION, GURLFRIEN'. GET READY FOR LOTS OF OLD MAN ANGST!

If you could see into my soul in that last bit where he's going from defiant to just batshit insane, while talking to Adelaide, my soul would've been like :D :D :D :D :D :D. Like I said I will probably write something really tl;dr about it tomorrow, but in short I think it was... well, ballsy and honest, like I said. Those seem to be the two most accurate adjectives.
(no subject) - afterthree on November 16th, 2009 05:06 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - _thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 12:11 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Chelle: doctor pointsafterthree on November 16th, 2009 05:04 am (UTC)
LOL @ WALL-E SEGWAY GADGET!

Also, the reaction between you and Frances was basically identical to the reactions my sister and I had, mine being identical to yours, capslock and all. XD

SKELETOR!MASTER! YESSSSSS!

I want more crazy!Ten! THE ANGST, I NEED THE ANGST!
Kali: dw :: that much power_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 10:42 pm (UTC)
PSH OF COURSE OUR REACTIONS ARE THE SAME, THREE.

The Doctor's random prejudice against robots had me loling so hard. "Dogs are different."

IT WAS TOTALLY CAPSLOCK WORTHY. A+. OMG.

I almost wrote "skeletor" in my post.
(no subject) - afterthree on November 16th, 2009 10:45 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - _thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 11:26 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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(no subject) - _thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 11:50 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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(no subject) - _thirty2flavors on November 17th, 2009 12:27 am (UTC) (Expand)
renee: Crazy fanboy!rattus_aerius on November 16th, 2009 07:39 am (UTC)
I LOVE CRAZY!ASS TEN!!!!!!!

IS IT CHRISTMAS YET? WHERE THE HELL'S A TARDIS WHEN YOU NEED ONE?
Kali: dw :: donna :: OMG_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 10:45 pm (UTC)
OMFG SO EXCITED. HE IS SO CRAZY. I LOVE IT.
Dani: dw // skeletor masterdashafeather on November 16th, 2009 08:31 am (UTC)
IT WAS EPIC. PERHAPS THE BEST EPISODE IN THE HISTORY OF WHO.

LOL SKELETOR!MASTER
Kali_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 12:13 pm (UTC)
LOL YOUR ICON LOL

OMG IT WAS SO GOOD. IT DEFINITELY COUNTERACTS THE MEDIOCRE OF THE NEXT DOCTOR AND PLANET OF THE DEAD.
Sarah Catherine: poor John Connorelirrina on November 16th, 2009 01:19 pm (UTC)
Ten totally losing his shit and going all I AM TIME LORD VICTORIOUS THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAA was awesome
LOL, I can't wait to watch this tonight!

Nine didn't get any impending death warning/threats. None of the other regenerations did either, did they? Ten's just special, I guess.
Kali_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 10:45 pm (UTC)
It's making for really interesting storytelling, the whole not-going-gently-into-that-good-night thing, so I totally approve. Well done, RTD.
Ing: donna | hee!hysteriagalore on November 16th, 2009 03:04 pm (UTC)
THIS.

I LOVED IT. I usually wait to post any thoughts until I've seen an episode twice but OMFG THIS WAS AMAZING I FINALLY GOT MY ANGSTY EPISODE!!!!

I have waited for so long to see Ten crack and actually get it; DUDE your actions have consequences and you can't escape it and there's a reason why you can't just do whatever the hell you like. Wow! I'm going to have a field day when I try to gather my thoughts about this episode properly. Thank you RTD and other writer fella.

Oddly enough this made me like Ten more than I did before (but I still love Cloen the best. To actually see him properly terrified of his future, his death and realize that he's gone too far and him beginning to connnect the dots, endeared him to me.

BE BACK LATER HAVE TO FINISH LOOKING FOR MY JAW, IT FLEW OFF.
Kali: dw :: cloen :: atta girl_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 10:47 pm (UTC)
YES! IT WAS SO GOOD!

Ugh the ending was so good, with his CRAZY and Adelaide's ASS-KICKING (HOW GREAT WAS ADELAIDE?) and then him realizing he'd taken it too far but not, I think, really being able to reign it back in. I was kind of skeptical of the whole "the Doctor knows he's going to regenerate for ages" thing, but I really like how its' playing out, especially now that he's CRAZY.

People write all kinds of fics in which Cloen is the Valeyard or evil or whatever and blows shit up in Pete's World and Ten has to come stop him. I think the opposite is a lot more likely.

Editrx: DW madnesseditrx on November 16th, 2009 03:21 pm (UTC)
I am so glad people are (mostly) reacting the way I am, which is:

0_0

WTF?

WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Batshit!Crazy!Doctor > sex *

My money is on the Master seeing the Doctor, grokking what's really going on, and being all, "OMFG. YOU CAN'T DO THAT TO TIME!!!" And being the saner one of the two. RTD is just that twisted, you know. Which is why I love him.

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* for certain definitions of "sex"

P.S. I knew I had this icon in my collection for a reason. ::pets it::
Kali: dw :: that much power_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 10:49 pm (UTC)
That would be really interesting, actually. I'm kind of in love with the idea of Ten just totally losing it and deciding to shape the universe to his liking. Even if he... doesn't really manage it, as seen with Adelaide. I'm pretty sure there's lots of religious metaphor in there but I'm going to ignore it.
michelemiss_mishi on November 16th, 2009 03:36 pm (UTC)
YOU SHOULD READ MY LIVEBLOG.

IT IS PRETTY AWESOME.

OKAY: BREAK!
Kali_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 10:49 pm (UTC)
I WILL DO THAT NOW. I was avoiding other people's posts until I got the teal dear out of my system.
I work, I function like i'm a girl.okelay on November 16th, 2009 06:15 pm (UTC)
my reaction at first was like feeling nearly suicidal from so much angst. but then I wrote my reaction post and read other and have to agree: awesome. the angst and depression and fire and rage and PAIN overshadows it a bit, but it is definitely there
Kali: dw :: ten :: fire and ice and rage_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 10:50 pm (UTC)
Oh it was super dark, but I think it was really good/brave storytelling and I'm really impressed with it as a whole. Which is mostly how I felt about Children of Earth, too, btu this time it's intensified because I actually care about Doctor Who.
Katya: reunitedteruel_a_witch on November 16th, 2009 07:58 pm (UTC)
I've just watched it and BOY WAS THIS EPIC, I LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT, and it wasn't even as scary as most people'd written, I love it when Ten goes all crazy but again it wasn't as crazy as I was convinced it'd be, I actually saw a very desperate,very lonely, absolutely terrified person who snapped, and in the end I wanted to give him a cuddle and not to run away from him, is something wrong with me? XDD
Kali: dw :: teamtardis :: only take the best_thirty2flavors on November 16th, 2009 10:52 pm (UTC)
Oh it was definitely a lonely-terrified-desperate inspired brand of CRAZY, but crazy nonetheless. Poor guy. I think he's sort of meandered past the point of no return by now. I think even his companions would be horrified.
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Lizbazcat89 on November 17th, 2009 02:41 am (UTC)
iawtp


DONNA MY LOVE I MISS YOU MORE THAN WORDS CAN SAY
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