♥ ([info]_mytimetoshine_) wrote,
@ 2009-03-23 19:41:00
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Lordy lordy no fake mustache; lordy lordy no chest hair
Listen to: TN Tranny TwoStep!

http://www.myspace.com/actorslashmodelmusic


Trannies are on their way to gettin' respect in all musical genres. I hope it's fairly normalized by, say, 20 years from now. And by that, I mean... people understanding and maybe even enjoying the references made in queer songs.

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[info]sodamnangsty
2009-03-24 12:06 am UTC (link)
i feel funny about cis peeps using "tranny" but that is just me maybe

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[info]_mytimetoshine_
2009-03-24 12:50 am UTC (link)
don't be so quick to judge, my friend!

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[info]sodamnangsty
2009-03-24 01:09 am UTC (link)
quick to judge? It is something I personally don't feel comfortable, I'm not mad at you or judging you just letting you know that it makes me (and some other folks feel uncomfortable)

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[info]_mytimetoshine_
2009-03-24 01:27 am UTC (link)
I know.

I won't ID someone who doesn't already use the term; that's derogatory, etc. etc.

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[info]sodamnangsty
2009-03-24 02:04 am UTC (link)
"Trannies are on their way to gettin' respect in all musical genres" so you are assuming that all transgendered musicians identify with the label "tranny"?

I am kind of confused.

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[info]_mytimetoshine_
2009-03-24 04:07 am UTC (link)
I am definitely referring to musicians who use the term, but could also be including those who do not because that is how much of the outside world identifies them (revealing a divide which is still very apparent; queer musicians drawing mainly queer crowds, etc.).

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[info]sodamnangsty
2009-03-24 04:16 am UTC (link)
but why not use transexual or trans instead of "tranny", it just seems to make more sense and be more apt if you are discussing trans people who are making music overall.

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[info]_mytimetoshine_
2009-03-24 04:36 am UTC (link)
Because I use blunt controversy as my means of expression. (This wouldn't be news to you if I publicized my poetry...)

Powerful connotations go into my words (not just for those whom I am describing, but as a revelation of myself), and part of expressing myself in a journal is to be able to write unfiltered.

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[info]_mytimetoshine_
2009-03-24 01:31 am UTC (link)
Sometimes making people uncomfortable is the point; which is why many artists make songs about it... being comfortable with that is part of what I'm referring to when I say understanding the references.

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[info]sodamnangsty
2009-03-24 02:07 am UTC (link)
You want to make people uncomfortable by using transgressive (excuse any potential puns) language or referencing artists using transgressive language?
again I do not fully understand what you are saying maybe?

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in reference
[info]_mytimetoshine_
2009-03-24 04:01 am UTC (link)
Yes, it's my lack of articulation which is confusing you!

The artists in question are using the term to bring the issue to the forefront of political consciousness. Equally making people feel comfortable (that they are not alone) and uncomfortable (blatant discomfort with/distancing from understood societal roles, etc.).

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[info]sodamnangsty
2009-03-24 04:14 am UTC (link)
in that context it is not something that makes me uncomfortable but as the term "tranny" has some pejorative connotations I think it is complicated for non trans people to use it kind of like "faggot" or "nigger" for straight and white folks. I don't think language should be totally policed and that pejorative terms should be given too much power but I do think the use of those kind of words by people who are not reclaiming them for themselves can get touchy.

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Re: in reference
[info]_mytimetoshine_
2009-03-24 04:23 am UTC (link)
Despite exteriors, I am hardly ever in the boat of people capable of labeling others as other.

I use terms very very consciously.

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Re: in reference
[info]sodamnangsty
2009-03-24 04:31 am UTC (link)
"I am hardly ever in the boat of people capable of labeling others as other."
what do you mean?

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Re: in reference
[info]sodamnangsty
2009-03-24 04:33 am UTC (link)
are you saying that you have no cis privilege at all?

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Re: in reference
[info]_mytimetoshine_
2009-03-24 04:41 am UTC (link)
I hardly ever feel any privilege at all... it makes life scary. Which is why I wish I could attach myself to labels, but none fit. So when I use one, I am using it with both positive and negative attachments.

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Re: in reference
[info]sodamnangsty
2009-03-24 04:46 am UTC (link)
wether you label yourself or your not the wider world and society at large are going to endow you privileges because you appear to be caucasian, appear to be cis female, appear to be able bodied, not an immigrant and are of a class where a post secondary is readily available to a certain degree you will have certain freedoms that others do not.

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Re: in reference
[info]_mytimetoshine_
2009-03-24 04:54 am UTC (link)
Yes, I consciously realize that. Which I think I have communicated several times throughout our fragmented conversation!

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Re: in reference
[info]sodamnangsty
2009-03-24 04:57 am UTC (link)
To a certain extent I suppose, The internet is tricky business.

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[info]comingxundonex
2009-03-24 12:47 am UTC (link)
I love trannies.

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[info]quackington
2009-03-24 12:54 am UTC (link)
I'd never turn a yankee tranny down.

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