_ironcat_ ([info]_ironcat_) wrote,
@ 2008-07-07 17:42:00
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Just one more reason to redo FEMA

BILOXI, Mississippi (CNN) -- Prisons in Mississippi got coffee makers, pillowcases and dinnerware -- all intended for victims of Hurricane Katrina. 

The state's Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks took more coffee makers, cleaning supplies and other items.

Plastic containers ended up with the Mississippi Department of Finance and Administration.

Colleges, volunteer fire departments and other agencies received even more.

But the Mississippi hurricane victims who originally were intended to receive the supplies got nothing, a CNN investigation has found. Video Watch victims tell why they need the items »

"It's scary to know that there are supplies that they are harboring and people [are] in need right now as we speak today," said Sharon Hanshaw, director of Coastal Women for Change, a nonprofit group helping storm victims.

Last month, CNN revealed that the Federal Emergency Management Agency had stored $85 million worth of household items in warehouses for two years. Instead of giving the supplies to victims of the 2005 hurricane, FEMA declared them surplus and gave them all away to federal agencies and 16 states in February.

The state of Louisiana -- the most hard-hit by the storm -- had not asked for any of the supplies, prompting outrage in the community after the original CNN report.

CNN's investigation showed that Mississippi was one of the 16 states that took the FEMA supplies, but it did not distribute them to Katrina victims.

Jim Marler, director of Mississippi's surplus agency, failed to return repeated phone calls over several months to explain what happened.

Agency spokeswoman Kym Wiggins said, "There may be a need, but we were not notified that there was a great need for this particular property."

That doesn't sit well with most aid groups in Mississippi. "You would have to be living under a rock not to know there is still a need," said Cass Woods, the project coordinator of Coastal Women for Change.

Wiggins said that nonprofit organizations must meet federal guidelines and register with the state and that no such groups helping the needy or homeless were registered with Mississippi's surplus agency.

"There is no specific designation outside of a disaster period that says we have to have sustained properties going to the disaster area," Wiggins said.

CNN interviewed the leaders of eight nonprofits helping Katrina victims at a Biloxi, Mississippi, church used as a staging area for community groups. All said they had no idea these items were available, and most had no idea the surplus agency existed.

"We work so hard to help people in our community when the government is holding back stuff that we can use to give people," said Glenda Perryman, director of United Hearts Community Action Agency.

Roberta Avila, director of the Mississippi Coast Interfaith Disaster Task Force, said, "It's needed even more now than right after the storm."

Records show Mississippi's surplus agency received household supplies, including dinnerware sets, towels, shirts, pants, shoes and cleaning items.

Those are the kind of household items that Howard and Gloria Griffith said they could have used since the storm and still need. The Griffiths said they spent every penny to rebuild their home. But they can't afford to finish it, so they're still living in a FEMA trailer on their property in Biloxi with their teenage son.

"I've never seen none of it," said Gloria Griffith after CNN showed her photos of some of the supplies that FEMA had kept in storage.

FEMA said it was costing more than $1 million a year to store the supplies, but officials have not been able to answer why the agency didn't get the supplies to Katrina victims. Both FEMA and the General Services Administration said the items originally were purchased or donated for victims of hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

In the wake of the CNN investigation, a FEMA official said the agency was launching an internal probe into the storage of the household supplies.

Bill Stallworth, executive director of the Hope Coordination Center in Biloxi that helps rehouse Katrina victims, said he's astounded that the supplies were given away. Stallworth and other community leaders said if they had known the FEMA items were available, they would have begged for them. 
"And when I hear people stand up and just beat their chest and say we've got everything under control, that's when I just want to slap them upside the head and say, 'Get a grip, get a life,' " said Stallworth, who is also a Biloxi city councilman




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[info]springdew
2008-07-07 11:45 pm UTC (link)
*outrage*

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[info]http://openid.aol.com/cuscutis
2008-07-08 01:00 am UTC (link)
This seems more the states screwed up than FEMA. FEMA can only provide what they're asked for. Their job is to support the states during a disaster. States that are unprepared don't know what to ask for, or even that stuff is available.

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[info]spc476
2008-07-08 01:47 am UTC (link)
What he said.

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That's exactly my point...
[info]_ironcat_
2008-07-08 12:03 pm UTC (link)
The states did screw up. Yup. Absolutely.
So did FEMA.
But FEMA, as a federal agency, should have been way more responsible for ensuring that the states that needed aid were aware of it, that the groups asking for aid in those states had some sort of liason to help them ask in the proper and most timely manner, and that "surplus" aid given to colleges and prisons when there is still such an obvious need should have signalled a flag of some sort.
If FEMA is going to be a federally run agency, responsible for helping out on a federal level and ensuring that each state gets the help they need, they should have someone (maybe lots of someones) walking in lockstep with each state and making sure things happen the way they should.
I am not casting all the blame at the states, FEMA, or even people higher up... this was an avalanch of bad decisions that landed on the little people who needed the help. FEMA (in it's current incarnation) needs to be scrapped and redone.

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Re: That's exactly my point...
[info]bunny42
2008-07-08 12:39 pm UTC (link)
Wait. If, as you indicate, states are so incompetent and bumbling (no argument, here) then why have 'em at all? Just put ALL the responsibility in Federal hands. Make FEMA accountable for everything. They don't have enough to do, yet. Let's give 'em even more stuff to deal with, like, for instance, people who have risen to the position of governor of a whole state, but don't have sense enough to recognize that they need assistance, help is out there, ASK FOR IT!

Okay, I'm a former Fed, so I'm a little biased. But our side of the story doesn't get nearly enough press. If you want to be really accurate, then much of the current government structure should be scrapped and redone. Al Gore tried it in the nineties, with laughable results, but it was an attempt, I'll have to give him that. As it stands, FEMA and everybody else are governed by strict rules which dictate what they do. I wouldn't be surprised if there were already guidelines in existence, in written form, even, available to anybody interested, which would advise them how to deal with government assistance. It's out there for just about everything else, although much of it is nigh on unreadable. But still, you can't seriously believe there's not a lawyer in LA who can interpret the Gummint-ese, if somebody actually WANTS to know. State governments often want to go it alone as much as they can, to prove they CAN, to justify their own planning and spending on citizen safety. And I say, more power to them. Otherwise, as I said, why have 'em? I'm four-square in favor of States Rights, and the Feds should stay out of it unless they're asked. The midwest doesn't seem to be all crying in their collective beer, wringing their hands and bemoaning the lack of Federal aid. Hollywood doesn't seem overly concerned about the plight of the flooded farmers. Why? Because the Midwestern states have competent government structures in place, and the people aren't disposed to relying on welfare and government assistance to keep them alive.

I figured you for a States Rights kind of guy. Just saying, don't blame FEMA for doing the best they can with the hand they're dealt. The above story talks about incompetence on a lot of levels. At least FEMA appears to be investigating how the situation could have been better handled. Do you think the states are, too? Or are they whining about how they got screwed? The stuff was there, the state government didn't distribute it, and FEMA's incompetent? That's kinda not fair...

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Re: That's exactly my point...
[info]_ironcat_
2008-07-09 01:47 am UTC (link)
You're right... I am all for states rights and states responsibilities to boot. BUT I am very much more a "know how to do your damn job or get a new one" kind of guy, and FEMA (as it is currently run) is fucking up.
You must not have read the very last line in my post.
" I am not casting all the blame at the states, FEMA, or even people higher up... this was an avalanch of bad decisions "

* From the FEMA website : The primary mission of the Federal Emergency Management Agency is to reduce the loss of life and property and protect the Nation from all hazards, including natural disasters, acts of terrorism, and other man-made disasters, by leading and supporting the Nation in a risk-based, comprehensive emergency management system of preparedness, protection, response, recovery, and mitigation.

Their job is to 'protect and lead' the NATION which means they are bigger than the individual states. FEMA has 2600 full time employees and another 4000 for emergency stuff... I doubt any state has that many people just for that purpose.
Do the states have responsibility AND blame in this? Absolutely. But if FEMA is going to be funded for and operate under the heading they want, they need to do a helluva better job than the one they are currently doing, even if it means giving some of their power / employees /funding or what have you back to the states who may be able to do the job better.

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Re: That's exactly my point...
[info]bunny42
2008-07-09 05:01 pm UTC (link)
When I worked for U.S. Customs, there was a Headquarters-level position called Ombudsman, or Trade Ombudsman, I forget which. His job was to liaise (yup, that's actually a verb--I looked it up!) with all aspects of the trade community: brokers, steamship agencies, importers, exporters, etc. to help them navigate the intricacies of the Tariff laws and international trade regulations. I left before Homeland Security took things over, so don't know if that position still exists.

Sounds like the perfect solution to the problems created by lack of communication between FEMA and the various state and local agencies involved in emergency assistance. For problems caused by greed, ignorance and dependence, not so much. The Midwest is showing that some states are just better equipped to handle those areas than others.

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