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23 July 2008 @ 04:30 am
 

Lightning's £120,000 all-electric sports car unveilled in London
, uses world-first lithium titanate battery technology that its makers claim will recharge "in minutes," although this needs three-phase industrial level electrical power.


Okay, I have a serious question here.

Concerning electric cars: the biggest problem is that they're less convenient than gas cars. A gasoline car can be filled up in minutes anywhere, but an electric car needs to be plugged into a powerful outlet for at least 6 hours for any typical model from the Reva to the Tesla Roadster. Even if you could have "charging stations" like gas stations, the problem again is that the charge takes a third of a day, not several minutes.

So here's my question, and it's not rhetorical: why not have a swappable battery pack, so what you do instead is pull out the rechargable battery altogether when it's empty and put in a charged one, while the drained one gets plugged in to recharge or whatever? That way your electric car's good to go. Granted there are probably some practical problems with this, but isn't it still more practical than driving your car home and plugging it in overnight every night?

Seriously, what's the reason no one's thought of this? I can't be the first person to come up with this. This system's already being used in hi power radio controlled toys, these battery packs that you remove to plug into the wall to charge. If the battery pack runs out you could swap the drained one for a fresh optional extra pack and keep playing. Why not apply this to the real thing?

Also on Engadget:

GM teams up with utilities to develop electric car charging infrastructure (which kind of triggered this post).

Electric Mini hitting U.S. streets in Summer 2009.
 
 
 
 
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La-hoo?[info]nebula1500 on July 23rd, 2008 01:09 am (UTC)
I'm really not totally sure, but I think the batteries are super huge and heavy. I don't even know if the average person could lift one easily? And I think having an extra one in there would take away from the efficiency. I have no idea if that's actually true, but that's my guess.
_53[info]_53 on July 23rd, 2008 02:38 am (UTC)
Well, I meant swapping the old batteries for new ones and the station crew constantly recharging and reusing them, so all you'd do is constantly swap out the same battery packs over and over every time. But yeah, I forgot about that.. they're not exactly typical car batteries. That could be a factor.
La-hoo?[info]nebula1500 on July 23rd, 2008 04:07 am (UTC)
No, but that would make sense. I thought you meant like, the person would carry an extra battery around, and then whenever they wanted, they'd switch it up. If the station kept all the extras, and did the switching, then yeah. I don't see what that wouldn't work...
Seattleforge: fauxnews[info]seattleforge on July 23rd, 2008 04:31 am (UTC)
Sharing is communism.
La-hoo?[info]nebula1500 on July 23rd, 2008 04:38 am (UTC)
True dat. To the commies go the spoils!
Seattleforge[info]seattleforge on July 23rd, 2008 04:31 am (UTC)
I believe the battery in the Chevy Volt is well over 1000 pounds. That could require some tools.
_53[info]_53 on July 23rd, 2008 05:36 am (UTC)
Ah, shit. Well, there you go.

I had a feeling you'd know the answer to this burning question :D
Seattleforge[info]seattleforge on July 23rd, 2008 03:13 pm (UTC)
Marcus - Top Gear did a pretty interesting film on the prototype for their hydrogen fuel cell vehicle. I think you can see it on youtube.
Basically the engine, cells, wheels, suspension... all of the moving parts were built into a platform. The body including electronic controls would be dropped on it. Different bodies could be dropped on it depending on the needs and mood of the driver.
But what if they kept a depot of bases fully charged and the owner's car body could be bolted on it at a "fueling" station. That kind of fits your idea a bit (communist).

AHA! I found it! http://youtube.com/watch?v=46TFbwhOn7w
_53[info]_53 on July 23rd, 2008 03:21 pm (UTC)
I'll definitely check it out when I get home :D
Seattleforge[info]seattleforge on July 23rd, 2008 03:17 pm (UTC)
For someone who doesn't drive you have an unhealthy obsession with combustion engines. ;-)
Joo[info]jewelsl85 on July 23rd, 2008 08:22 pm (UTC)
I would also think that battery re-charging may run up quite a large electric bill, which may be much more expensive than gas. Unfortunately, non-polluting alternatives aren't usually cheap. :(
_53[info]_53 on July 23rd, 2008 08:46 pm (UTC)
Well, this car definitely would because it's got a patented technology to recharge the battery in minutes, not hours, using a three-tier industrial electric hookup not usually found in residential homes. But cars like the Reva (AKA G-Wiz), a popular electric car sol here, cost the equivlent of roughly a US cent per kilometer.
 
 

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